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Re: Anaconda needs new locale thinking. (was Re: How important are ISO standards to Fedora?)



Pekka Pietikainen wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:53:20PM -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Rodd Clarkson <rodd clarkson id au> wrote:
 I may use English US on my computer, but I measure using metric, and
 format my dates DD-MM-YYYY and my printer uses A4.  Anaconda doesn't get
 any of the latter right, and that's just plain wrong.
Here's a better question. Why are you using US English? Why aren't you
using another English locale?
Brits spell some words in a funny way (I wonder if anyone bothers "translating" US vs. brit spelling in software tho) ;)
That said, anaconda asks what _language_ you want to install in.
(LC_MESSAGES) You choose "English" and
English en      latarcyrheb-sun16       en_US.UTF-8     us America/New_York

all are forced on you. The keymap and timezone you can change within anaconda,
the locale you can't, that goes into /etc/sysconfig/i18n.
A possiblity would be to add some heuristics to do en_GB.UTF-8 if you choose
Europe/London as the timezone, en_IE.UTF-8 if you choose Europe/Dublin etc.
Some extra code in anaconda, probably a better end-user experience too.
You could also do a /etc/sysconfig/i18n and ~/.i18n gui editor thing and run
that post-install, one that lets you choose from the various locales for the
various options and also show how how dates etc. would get shown with
different settings. Maybe using the timezone as a "hint".

This does not work for me any more after upgrading to F8 (in F7 and prior it was working). Also it does not work on rawhide.
Is it a known issue or should i bz it and if yes under what component?

Stephanos

One problem is also that there's no "International English" locale in glibc.
It would be better than en_US as the default (except for americans).

I strongly believe that exposing locale customizations to the extent
necessary to make you happy in anaconda is a really dumb idea.  This
sort of stuff is a PER USER configuration which is too complicated for
the installer to need to mess with.

We set a sane default in the installer based on the locale, and then
the installer gets the hell out of the way.  if you want to make PER
USER customizations, then figure out a way to expose PER USER
customizations for the different locale based settings.

-jef

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