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Re: RFE: Remove isdn4k-utils from base installs



On Thursday 21 February 2008 09:46:49 pm Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 17:04 -0700, Lamont Peterson wrote:
> > I have not had to deal with any ISDN since 1999.  I have no need to have
> > it installed on my systems.  It is a bit irritating to be removing it all
> > the time.  It isn't sucked back in as a dependency for me at some later
> > point, either.  If someone does need it installed, I would find it highly
> > likely that they would be capable of finding the right package.
> >
> > Based on all of that, I'd like to see it removed from base installs in
> > Fedora 9, please.
>
> Since if you actually need the package, the reason you need it is so
> that you can get online, it's pretty important to have there by default
> for most cases.  If you don't want it, uncheck the dial-up group.

I'm not suggesting that it not be part of the install media or something like 
that.  It absolutely should be for those people who do need it.

I never select the "dial-up" group and it's still installed.  IIRC, it is 
installed if I do a minimal install.  I know that I didn't install dial-up on 
this box and it was still included.  I did a minimal install then added a few 
things that I need, but nothing I have installed depends on the ISDN.

And for those who are doing network installs over the Internet and using an 
ISDN line to connect, either the chicken or the egg has to be there, so I 
don't see that as an argument for installing it by default.

> ISDN is still somewhat common-place outside of the US, especially in
> Europe

Yes, you are right about that.  Again, I'm not suggesting removing it from the 
distro.
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