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Re: et tu, wvdial Re: RFE: Remove isdn4k-utils from base installs

On Friday 22 February 2008 01:50:14 pm Callum Lerwick wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 13:15 -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > I wonder where all the vocal germans are, in opposition to
> > > this change.  :)
> > >
> > > Seriously, I wonder how much this is still true.  A few
> > > years ago, sure, but now, aparently even some of the more
> > > rural parts of Germany have ADSL.
> >
> > in for a dime, in for a dollar --the same RFE arguments for
> > trimming out dialup PPP support (wvdial) exist;  while dialup
> > PPP still exists, it is a dying breed in Fedora's target
> > audience
> Honestly, how much space would be saved by cutting out ISDN? PPP? Unless
> it's a saving on order of hundreds of megs, it's a drop in the bucket.
> Its much more important to have things "just work" for the maximum
> number of users.

Alright, look.  I don't know how to say this any plainer.  I *am not* asking 
to have ISDN support removed.  I am asking to not have it in the base, 
minimal, installs.  When I think of a minimal install, 1GB of stuff that 
includes dozens of packages like ISDN is not what I'm thinking about.

I don't have any servers in data centers that need ISDN support.  If I ever 
do, I know how to install the package.  If someone doesn't, they can find it 
in the dial-up support and install that.

How many servers do you have that need dial-up?  Would anyone in Europe care 
to comment on this question?  Do you have any servers that need dial-up 
support installed as part of a minimal install?
Lamont Peterson <lamont lamontpeterson org
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