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Re: Experiment: an RPM that shows uninstalled apps in main menu



Zack Cerza wrote:
Denis Leroy wrote:
Andrew Farris wrote:
Denis Leroy wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Interesting idea. You're setting yourself up for a lot of pain on the
package maintenance side, I fear.

Well that all depends on how much scripting I'm prepared to make :-)

I used a number of scripts to extract the desktop and icon files out of the RPMs, parse the desktop files, etc... in theory it's 100% scriptable. Now, things would be considerably easier if this was integrated into packagedb: flag packages that have desktop entries, add information such as short description and icon. Then we could push the idea further and add things such as screenshots, for example. Then we'd have all the raw data necessary to create a real "fedora software installation assistant".

There are some challenges to providing this through a regular package review though: may need collaboration with redhat-menus (integration into main menu) and/or desktop-utils owners (to update list of uninstalled apps after an RPM is installed manually).

One issue right now is that all those applications show up as options in the 'open with' menus of Gnome right now, even the not installed apps. If you try to open an image with gimp while the fedora-apps rpm is installed the menu will show many image editors and viewers you don't have installed. That obviously needs to be prevented.

Yes I noticed also. I think it's just a matter of filtering the Mime entries out of the desktop files...

Or instead causing the desktop file to do: "system-install-packages $package && $binary $file" or similar. :)

A variety of tricks could be employed I'm sure, but at minimum the applications actually available to open the file (installed apps) need to be the most accessible; if the other apps were still listed that'd be fine as long as its clear they are not installed yet and are in a separate sorted list (i.e. installed at the top of the menu, not installed below).

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