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Re: revisor - is this a bug or is it me?



On Jan 22, 2008 9:23 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta gmail com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2008 10:48 AM, Valent Turkovic <valent turkovic gmail com> wrote:
> > Ok, for usage I will go to them, but what about the bugs I reported
> > about? Fedora unity people aren't developing revisor AFAIK, or are
> > they?
> Here's where we talk about what it means to be a Fedora developer,
> versus just a developer.
>
> In actually, very little is developed as part of fedora directly.
> There are multiple pieces of technology where fedora contributors are
> also significant upstream developers, but for most packages
> fedora!=upstream.  Even when the project source code is hosted at
> hosted.fedoraproject.org, its still not necessarily appropriate to
> think of that project as a 'Fedora'
>
> At the most naive level, it might be best to think of people building
> pieces of Fedora infrastructure as Fedora developers, and you'd mostly
> be right, since the infrastructure that Fedora project uses is in
> large part motivated by internal project needs. But other people do
> use those bits so they do have some upstream context that isn't
> completely defined by Fedora.
>
> Outside of that it gets much harder to define when someone is  Fedora
> developer specifically. Some examples....
>
> The kernel is important to Fedora, but are the Fedora contributors
> Fedora developers...or are they kernel developers?  I'd like to think
> of them as kernel developers who contribute to Fedora.. because in all
> the ways that matter they are driving important enhancements into the
> kernel base, so that all linux kernel users potentially benefit.
> Fedora as a project helps them do that more effectively by being an
> easy way for user to get access to kernel builds as part of an
> integrated whole.  Can Fedora as a project change to be even an even
> more effective conduit to connect kernel developers and users...
> yes..now and forever.
>
> The gnome desktop is important to Fedora, but are the gnome desktop
> contributors Fedora developers... or are the gnome developers?  I'd
> like to think of them as gnome desktop developers who contribute to
> Fedora.. because in all the ways that matter they are driving
> important enhancements into the gnome codebase so that all gnome users
> potentially benefit.  Fedora as a project helps them do that more
> effectively by being an easy way for user to get access to gnome
> builds as part of an integrated whole. Can Fedora as a project change
> to be even an even more effective conduit to connect gnome developers
> and users... yes..now and forever.
>
> Similarly, revisor is its own upstream project with its own
> developers.  We as a project are lucky enough to count some if not all
> of the developers of the tool  as Fedora contributors. And hopefully
> the revisor developers see Fedora as a project an effective conduit to
> get users, using their bits.  Can Fedora as a project change to be
> even an even more effective conduit to connect revisor developers and
> users... yes..now and forever.
>
> -jef"Holy crap its above freezing here!  I love global warming!"spaleta

Thanks Jeff for great reply!

Valent


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