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Re: F9 Alpha spinning



Hi All,

Some questions / suggestions to get the size down:
* why is httpd on the livecd?
* why is mesa-libOSMesa there, that seems a bug
* gnome-games is getting quite large, maybe we should split it in
  gnome-games and gnome-games-extras, if we put glchess in gnome-games-extras,
  we also loose PyOpenGL and through that python-numeric and freeglut.

  If someone can draw the line between the main package and extras I'm willing
  to do the work to make this happen.
* gnumeric includes a database data exchange plugin which drags in libgnomedb
  and libgda, I'm working on an update to 1.8.1, and I plan to put the database
  plugin (and other plugins which drag in additional deps if I find any) in
  gnumeric-plugins-extras, saving us the space of libgnomedb and libgda

So if some others have some similar ideas, maybe we can shave of a nice amount of the livecd size, maybe making the x86_64 version fit on a CD and / or making room for some other stuff to add.

Regards,

Hans


Luke Macken wrote:
Below is a diff between the F8-Live-i686 and F9-Alpha-Live-i686 Desktop spins.


new package libgdiplus-devel: 8584
new package xorg-x11-server-common: 38863
new package PolicyKit-gnome-libs: 40188
new package kerneloops: 52570
new package swfdec-gtk: 55786
new package gnome-panel-libs: 56936
new package swfdec-mozilla: 75911
new package libconfig: 120055
new package obex-data-server: 136538
new package at-spi-python: 170868
new package ncurses-base: 176949
new package pixman: 209556
new package scim-python: 247730
new package libcurl: 258148
new package libggz: 289477
new package libmtp: 398952
new package xorg-x11-drv-openchrome: 415754
new package ggz-client-libs: 434830
new package samyak-fonts: 457144
new package perl-Date-Manip: 458629
new package libtasn1: 466849
new package python-crypto: 571535
new package elilo: 613010
new package abyssinica-fonts: 649794
new package ncurses-libs: 668620
new package swfdec: 958169
new package gvfs: 1700127
new package totem-pl-parser: 2627745
new package VLGothic-fonts: 3831447
new package VLGothic-fonts-proportional: 3831790
new package gnome-settings-daemon: 6218660
new package mesa-libOSMesa: 7248256
new package scim-python-chinese: 7621164
new package libgweather: 14592282
new package vim-common: 16294034
new package dasher: 22111835
new package xulrunner: 24481155
crontabs grew 144 bytes (6.83%) (2107->2251)
libopenraw-gnome grew 348 bytes (7.94%) (4384->4732)
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev grew 380 bytes (1.84%) (20597->20977)
irqbalance grew 400 bytes (1.85%) (21595->21995)
m17n-contrib grew 469 bytes (1.28%) (36757->37226)
pam_ccreds grew 497 bytes (1.49%) (33428->33925)
smolt-firstboot grew 655 bytes (6.01%) (10893->11548)
pcsc-lite-libs grew 848 bytes (2.44%) (34696->35544)
dbus-x11 grew 884 bytes (3.63%) (24353->25237)
numactl grew 896 bytes (1.00%) (89239->90135)
gnome-bluetooth-libs grew 1278 bytes (1.02%) (124866->126144)
xorg-x11-drv-evdev grew 1445 bytes (4.05%) (35642->37087)
m17n-db-hindi grew 1717 bytes (21.74%) (7899->9616)
sysreport grew 1783 bytes (5.30%) (33620->35403)
libpciaccess grew 1796 bytes (7.21%) (24901->26697)
sg3_utils-libs grew 2156 bytes (1.97%) (109392->111548)
pciutils grew 2464 bytes (1.36%) (180975->183439)
setroubleshoot grew 2541 bytes (1.11%) (229578->232119)
gnome-keyring-pam grew 2556 bytes (8.89%) (28760->31316)
libcap grew 2618 bytes (5.79%) (45230->47848)
apr grew 2823 bytes (1.04%) (271801->274624)
bc grew 2861 bytes (1.50%) (190964->193825)
libsepol grew 2992 bytes (1.33%) (224692->227684)
e2fsprogs-libs grew 3076 bytes (1.23%) (250016->253092)
lohit-fonts-telugu grew 3100 bytes (1.78%) (174487->177587)
device-mapper-libs grew 3680 bytes (4.25%) (86516->90196)
glx-utils grew 3704 bytes (10.98%) (33736->37440)
scim-chewing grew 4072 bytes (3.22%) (126383->130455)
dbus-libs grew 4100 bytes (1.63%) (251944->256044)
nash grew 4128 bytes (1.74%) (237698->241826)
scim-sinhala grew 4140 bytes (6.19%) (66881->71021)
libjpeg grew 4420 bytes (1.61%) (275021->279441)
authconfig-gtk grew 4808 bytes (2.75%) (175143->179951)
mkinitrd grew 4854 bytes (4.84%) (100334->105188)
m17n-contrib-sinhala grew 5443 bytes (48.05%) (11327->16770)
linuxwacom grew 5518 bytes (1.10%) (502293->507811)
desktop-file-utils grew 5523 bytes (4.50%) (122601->128124)
gnome-python2-gnomeprint grew 5547 bytes (1.27%) (437641->443188)
bluez-utils-alsa grew 5856 bytes (13.67%) (42824->48680)
m17n-contrib-telugu grew 6114 bytes (28.08%) (21776->27890)
rsyslog grew 6922 bytes (1.45%) (477587->484509)
ustr grew 7531 bytes (3.12%) (241610->249141)
rhpxl grew 7783 bytes (2.36%) (329907->337690)
xorg-x11-drv-mga grew 8319 bytes (4.91%) (169473->177792)
taglib grew 8368 bytes (1.71%) (489415->497783)
gtk-nodoka-engine grew 8948 bytes (9.32%) (96057->105005)
nscd grew 9484 bytes (6.73%) (140911->150395)
exempi grew 9692 bytes (1.39%) (698782->708474)
gnome-menus grew 9841 bytes (1.57%) (626493->636334)
dbus-glib grew 9970 bytes (2.10%) (473790->483760)
libdhcp6client grew 10524 bytes (6.30%) (166956->177480)
openldap grew 10658 bytes (1.76%) (604986->615644)
nss_ldap grew 12224 bytes (2.17%) (562402->574626)
dmidecode grew 14466 bytes (10.46%) (138266->152732)
NetworkManager-vpnc grew 14477 bytes (4.58%) (316033->330510)
system-config-rootpassword grew 14962 bytes (16.07%) (93118->108080)
gstreamer-python grew 15266 bytes (1.64%) (933175->948441)
rarian grew 15824 bytes (4.99%) (316947->332771)
at-spi grew 16072 bytes (2.38%) (674624->690696)
isomd5sum grew 17146 bytes (36.61%) (46840->63986)
usbutils grew 17192 bytes (19.31%) (89044->106236)
acl grew 17907 bytes (11.99%) (149361->167268)
hicolor-icon-theme grew 17992 bytes (79.30%) (22688->40680)
gnome-python2-desktop grew 18187 bytes (7.44%) (244527->262714)
libdhcp grew 18665 bytes (13.75%) (135727->154392)
which grew 20480 bytes (65.05%) (31485->51965)
NetworkManager-gnome grew 20604 bytes (2.90%) (710665->731269)
pam_krb5 grew 20943 bytes (8.06%) (259736->280679)
system-config-language grew 21674 bytes (8.55%) (253576->275250)
libxcb grew 22328 bytes (5.40%) (413804->436132)
bluez-utils grew 22572 bytes (1.76%) (1280277->1302849)
pygtksourceview grew 23100 bytes (36.06%) (64064->87164)
libgpg-error grew 23525 bytes (12.14%) (193728->217253)
glibmm24 grew 24411 bytes (5.25%) (465396->489807)
fribidi grew 24912 bytes (17.19%) (144894->169806)
gmime grew 24916 bytes (4.24%) (587824->612740)
libuser grew 25215 bytes (1.56%) (1616562->1641777)
xterm grew 25999 bytes (3.24%) (802644->828643)
httpd grew 28595 bytes (1.12%) (2551734->2580329)
libdhcp4client grew 28996 bytes (5.81%) (499144->528140)
m17n-lib grew 30893 bytes (10.14%) (304750->335643)
rhpl grew 31037 bytes (3.99%) (778235->809272)
bind-utils grew 33408 bytes (10.87%) (307362->340770)
NetworkManager grew 33657 bytes (1.42%) (2377366->2411023)
dbus-python grew 36266 bytes (5.11%) (710089->746355)
gnome-mag grew 36431 bytes (7.21%) (504936->541367)
libXpm grew 37746 bytes (52.09%) (72467->110213)
libgnomekbd grew 38042 bytes (6.68%) (569521->607563)
pm-utils grew 39200 bytes (117.36%) (33402->72602)
nautilus-sendto grew 42489 bytes (16.21%) (262118->304607)
dhclient grew 42699 bytes (8.59%) (497288->539987)
gtksourceview2 grew 42895 bytes (2.00%) (2148753->2191648)
krb5-libs grew 45052 bytes (2.96%) (1522532->1567584)
system-config-printer grew 56236 bytes (5.99%) (939482->995718)
gnutls grew 58282 bytes (5.99%) (972804->1031086)
libthai grew 60142 bytes (17.40%) (345628->405770)
bluez-gnome grew 60576 bytes (22.56%) (268531->329107)
mono-data grew 61605 bytes (1.21%) (5087435->5149040)
libwnck grew 62234 bytes (5.42%) (1148126->1210360)
gtk2-engines grew 63679 bytes (6.09%) (1045391->1109070)
system-config-users grew 64047 bytes (4.40%) (1455495->1519542)
gnokii grew 68723 bytes (4.36%) (1575916->1644639)
rsync grew 73058 bytes (18.04%) (404896->477954)
hal-info grew 75029 bytes (20.94%) (358305->433334)
mesa-libGLU grew 77812 bytes (17.12%) (454428->532240)
mdadm grew 83417 bytes (4.79%) (1743098->1826515)
shared-mime-info grew 85852 bytes (9.51%) (902332->988184)
compiz-gnome grew 87904 bytes (7.16%) (1227682->1315586)
PolicyKit-gnome grew 89123 bytes (126.49%) (70457->159580)
GConf2 grew 89585 bytes (1.68%) (5342705->5432290)
dhcpv6-client grew 94965 bytes (54.70%) (173599->268564)
ntfs-3g grew 107185 bytes (36.31%) (295187->402372)
f-spot grew 110065 bytes (1.44%) (7621883->7731948)
PolicyKit grew 121200 bytes (71.93%) (168495->289695)
gnupg grew 126829 bytes (2.62%) (4841029->4967858)
libgcrypt grew 132376 bytes (38.24%) (346204->478580)
libopenraw grew 136838 bytes (101.68%) (134583->271421)
pykickstart grew 141694 bytes (17.92%) (790784->932478)
gnome-python2-gnomevfs grew 142165 bytes (87.24%) (162958->305123)
hwdata grew 144093 bytes (15.63%) (921699->1065792)
shadow-utils grew 144973 bytes (5.29%) (2739389->2884362)
gnome-volume-manager grew 158480 bytes (7.38%) (2146417->2304897)
vbetool grew 162208 bytes (139.43%) (116340->278548)
openssl grew 166448 bytes (4.81%) (3459831->3626279)
libselinux-python grew 171323 bytes (118.46%) (144622->315945)
libsilc grew 180620 bytes (17.41%) (1037560->1218180)
sound-juicer grew 182617 bytes (5.86%) (3114050->3296667)
gnome-system-monitor grew 186353 bytes (3.55%) (5244840->5431193)
gdb grew 193437 bytes (3.11%) (6228176->6421613)
evolution-data-server grew 208724 bytes (1.89%) (11029422->11238146)
PyOpenGL grew 213779 bytes (4.86%) (4398157->4611936)
tomboy grew 218900 bytes (3.63%) (6022535->6241435)
parted grew 223507 bytes (15.16%) (1474368->1697875)
selinux-policy-devel grew 229206 bytes (4.15%) (5522257->5751463)
orca grew 231344 bytes (4.05%) (5718621->5949965)
util-linux-ng grew 245524 bytes (5.17%) (4749959->4995483)
iso-codes grew 269192 bytes (4.80%) (5605136->5874328)
system-config-date grew 282500 bytes (10.09%) (2798572->3081072)
xorg-x11-drv-ati grew 285328 bytes (35.75%) (798151->1083479)
selinux-policy grew 292154 bytes (3.79%) (7707834->7999988)
eog grew 292326 bytes (7.82%) (3740424->4032750)
dbus grew 299134 bytes (58.75%) (509123->808257)
totem grew 321458 bytes (5.87%) (5476956->5798414)
gnome-keyring grew 333541 bytes (32.87%) (1014819->1348360)
glibc grew 347221 bytes (2.59%) (13402107->13749328)
sqlite grew 358672 bytes (76.12%) (471170->829842)
setroubleshoot-server grew 363273 bytes (22.18%) (1637732->2001005)
bind-libs grew 389872 bytes (17.27%) (2258064->2647936)
gcalctool grew 496578 bytes (10.21%) (4862745->5359323)
gnome-panel grew 509960 bytes (4.35%) (11714901->12224861)
gutenprint grew 664813 bytes (15.07%) (4410340->5075153)
rhythmbox grew 678314 bytes (6.41%) (10582223->11260537)
mono-core grew 686301 bytes (2.01%) (34154946->34841247)
nautilus grew 693197 bytes (5.04%) (13751211->14444408)
mono-winforms grew 729754 bytes (7.47%) (9765822->10495576)
totem-mozplugin grew 770229 bytes (136.17%) (565632->1335861)
mono-web grew 797665 bytes (9.85%) (8097242->8894907)
glib2 grew 849381 bytes (29.07%) (2922173->3771554)
gnome-power-manager grew 934030 bytes (8.33%) (11214535->12148565)
nss grew 937664 bytes (44.33%) (2114975->3052639)
libsmbclient grew 1191360 bytes (50.53%) (2357736->3549096)
gnome-games grew 1373569 bytes (4.65%) (29510057->30883626)
kernel grew 1885068 bytes (4.01%) (47063671->48948739)
gutenprint-foomatic grew 2393009 bytes (5.05%) (47405319->49798328)
anaconda grew 2540426 bytes (17.58%) (14448198->16988624)
removed package fonts-punjabi: 0
removed package aspell-en: 3567971
removed package fonts-gujarati: 0
removed package fonts-korean: 0
removed package fonts-arabic: 0
removed package xorg-x11-drv-via: 363192
removed package xorg-x11-drv-avivo: 107204
removed package fonts-oriya: 0
removed package xorg-x11-drv-chips: 154533
removed package fonts-chinese: 0
removed package fonts-kannada: 0
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removed package fonts-hindi: 0
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removed package totem-plparser: 70428
removed package libbeagle: 94092
removed package xorg-x11-drv-tseng: 52907
removed package db4o: 1414265
removed package fuse: 216231
removed package liberation-fonts: 1097162
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removed package fonts-telugu: 0
removed package xorg-x11-drv-ark: 18888
removed package fonts-sinhala: 0
removed package firstboot-tui: 653472
removed package fonts-malayalam: 0
removed package curl: 514238
old has 896 packages
new has 901 packages



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