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Re: Fedora Education Spin



On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:43:08 +0530
Rahul Sundaram <sundaram fedoraproject org> wrote:

> The other ways aren't anywhere as easy or accessible to everyone.
> Look at the number of complaints we are getting about not releasing
> regular CD images or that live images aren't CD size for x86_64.
> Besides more granularity in packages is a good thing to have anyway
> if Fedora has to retain it's goal of being a good foundation to build
> things for OLPC or other resource constrained systems.

And at the same time, hugely granular packages lead to a horrible user
experience, where none of the software works as advertised because you
forgot to install the 50 addon packages to get the functionality you
wanted.  Not to mention the bloat in metadata size, that folks will
have to download again and again, more delays in depsolving, longer and
longer periods of time for composing releases/updates, etc...

There is a balance to strike, and we have to ask ourselves if we care
about being usable ourselves, or if all we care about is doing all the
hardwork so that somebody /else/ can be useable, just based on us, but
with a different name due to our draconian trademark policies.

> 
> > There are a few ways now, and we can certainly put work into
> > creating more and easier ways to consume these images.  Software is
> > only getting bigger, and the CD size is only going to further limit
> > what we can do. Functionality of the CD sized image will only get
> > worse, not better.  
> 
> That's a good challenge to have to prevent software from getting too 
> bloated or packages from growing unneeded dependencies. Maybe CD's
> would get obsoleted completely sometime in the future. We haven't
> reached that point yet.

CD sized optical media has been obsoleted.  Some parts of the world
just hasn't noticed yet.  When we're trying to be a bleeding edge
distro it's rather hard to tie ourselves to multi-generation old
hardware standards.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

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