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Re: Fedora Freedom and linux-libre

David Woodhouse wrote:

No, I think you've completely missed the point.

The point is whether a derivative work exists, which won't depend on how the parts get to their end locations. If it is a derivative when the parts are aggregated for delivery it will be just as much a derivative if the parts are delivered separately.

The 'transient combination' is _far_ from being irrelevant. That
combination for distribution is very thing that is not permitted.
Aggregations are explicitly permitted.

Collective works are explicitly not permitted, under some circumstances.

Do do have an exact definition of what is not permitted? Chunks of data carried along for the ride and dropped into separate devices strike me as "sections of that work are not derived from the Program,
and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in
themselves". Before getting carried away, can you show how firmware would not fit this description?

That's the whole point in the bit in the GPL which goes "...this
License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you
distribute them as separate works. But when you distribute those same
sections as part of a while which a work based on the Program, the
distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License..."

I don't really see anything there about details you have to observe to maintain a separation. If you want to make some up, go ahead. Maybe you can modify the compiler to do it for you.

I have absolutely no clue what you're trying to say; I'm sorry. This is
why I stopped responding to you before.

Whatever mechanical translations you can do to something will not change its copyright status. If you make a tar file containing 2 different copyrighted works, they are still 2 separate works, but there is nothing magic about tar's format that relates to this concept. Any other way of aggregating the bits together would be the same, including having the compiler lump the bits in a spot where they can be extracted as cleanly as a 'tar -x' would do it. It is just a different way of mechanical aggregation of bits that have nothing to do with each other and are separated before use.

  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell gmail com

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