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Re: Firewall and user services that needs open ports

Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:17:25AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 16:53:10 -0400,
  Chuck Anderson <cra WPI EDU> wrote:
Why do we need a firewall when you can easily prevent services from being accessed...just stop the service! Don't bind to the port, and it won't be possible to connect to it.
Because there are network services that you only want accessible locally.

Right, but the default firewall rules don't do that. By default maybe the firewall should be off.

Or maybe the default firewall rules shouldn't be wide open, but should be local instead... with the understanding that most people who do not know how to effectively change their firewall ruleset are going to be working in a small home network.

I wouldn't argue the default firewall rules are perfect, but turning it off doesn't help anything at all. You say its just as good to turn the services off... but its not. The firewall is a layer of protection in place if the service is started unintentionally, or if a breach takes place and an open port is hijacked for unintended purposes. Yes SELinux handles that, but with the popularity of turning that off after install (still lots of people seem to do that) the firewall is still a useful protection.

And the firewall also gives you traffic control and stateful packet inspection which is valuable in itself; any running service should have SPI protecting it whether its supposed to be open to the world or just local. Just preventing ports from getting bound is not the same.

Andrew Farris <lordmorgul gmail com> www.lordmorgul.net
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