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Re: Too many default services on



On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Harald Hoyer <harald redhat com> wrote:
> Trying a yum everything install, I found out, that booting now takes endlessly.
>
>  # ls /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S*|wc -l
>  95
>
>  Please review, if the packages really need to be "on" after an install.
>
>  # for i in  /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S*; do rpm -qf /etc/init.d/${i/*S[0-9][0-9]/};done | sort -u
<snip>

You've just installed everything.  I wouldn't be worried about boot
time as much.  Many of these packages, you would expect that someone
wil actually use the services they provide.  IE, what's the point of
installing apache if you are not going to have it run at startup.
There might be issues about security, but if we can't secure Apache
anyways, what's the point of including it in Fedora?  My point is, if
I install apache, it's useless if it's insecure or not running
anyways, so I fail to see why we want to have it not start up by
default (possibly in a more than usually secure mode to protect noobs
from themselves).

A much more interesting complaint would be about the number of
services needed to start a clean boot, and the amount of time it takes
to get it done.

-Yaakov


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