Apt autoupdates

Suren Karapetyan surenkarapetyan at gmail.com
Sun May 4 14:19:36 UTC 2008


On 5/4/08, Anders Karlsson <anders at trudheim.co.uk> wrote:
> * Suren Karapetyan <surenkarapetyan at gmail.com> [20080503 20:51]:
> > Anders Karlsson wrote:
> >> I was under the impression that this is what 'pinning' packages was
> >> available for. I don't see this as a bug but as expected
> >> behaviour. After all, we do expect yum and it's tools up update
> >> all available packages unless we tell it not to.
> >>
> >> Now, if the packages were pinned, and the update script went ahead and
> >> updated them anyway, that would be a bug.
> >
> > We expect "yum update" to update all packages.
> > But we (or at least me) don't expect yum (nor even yum-updatesd) to update
> > all packages nightly by default.
> > Agree about pinning, but pinning doesn't work well for rawhide cause
> > especially during the first half of rawhide development I would have 50%+
> > packages pinned.
> > I have only one PC at home so it needs to be at least remotely stable :)
>
> I am not 100% sure, as I don't currently have a Debian based system to
> check with, but from memory, this is what a Debian based system
> does, have a cronjob that does the nightly updates.

Well I do have a Debian4 system handy.
Debian has the cron jobs for apt scheduled in daily, but the default
configuration (which is done in /etc/cron.daily/apt) has the
auto(update/upgrade) options turned off. So it doesn't even update the
package list, let alone the packages.

> If so, the apt
> package in Fedora just does what upstream (Debian) does, and we track
> upstream closely, right?

Well of course we are :)
But this doesn't make sense in this case cause upstream of apt
(Debian) has nothing to do with Fedora or even rpms

>
> The setting in /etc/sysconfig/apt would be something simple to carry a
> separate patch for though. I'll shut up now. :)

and it [upstream] has nothing to do with /etc/sysconfig/apt cause
there is no sysconfig in Debian. So /etc/sysconfig/apt isn't a file
which should be PATCHED.
It's just a distro-specific configuration file which should be MODIFIED.

>
> /Anders
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Regards
Suren




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