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Re: Xorg 1.5 missed the train?



On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge gmail com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Christopher Stone
> <chris stone gmail com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange redhat com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:23:47PM -0400, Jason Tang wrote:
>>>> The only problem being that this release is incompatible with current
>>>> nvidia drivers.  Granted, I'm aware of the Fedora position regarding
>>>> non-OSS, but this Xorg issue has completely destroyed many user's
>>>> confidence in the dev team.
>>>>
>>>> Most users could care less about supposed 'valid' reasons - that fact
>>>> is: No 3D acceleration == No F9 adoption (or worse, an eroding user
>>>> base).  Lets not play this game with F10.
>>>
>>> Well I'm an Intel & Radeon user and Xorg in F9 is dramatically better
>>> better for all my machines. So, yes, if new code improves life for the
>>> open source drivers, lets do this again & again in future releaes. I don't
>>> want my desktop experiance held hostage by one company with binary drivers.
>>> I chose hardware which is supportable so I can get the best & latest open
>>> source has to offer.
>>
>> Why the H.E. double hockey sticks do people think proving
>> compatibility packages for nVidia users will somehow hold the desktop
>> hostage for everyone else?
>>
>> I do not understand why ajax could not provide compatibility rpms for
>> nVidia users?  Is he not paid by redhat?  I mean just how difficult
>> can it be to provide F8 xorg rpms on F9 for nVidia users??
>>
>
> He is paid by Red Hat to work on X, not to be your personal slave. You
> want that find out what it costs first.. I am guessing around
> 100k/year for that kind of nightmare. Otherwise stay with F8 until
> your card is supported. Especially since he would need to make sure
> that pretty much every X app is compiled twice with one with the old
> API and one with the new one.


What? The way I understand it is that you could simply use the xorg on
F8 with F9 without needing to recompile anything (except maybe other
xorg packages)?  I thought someone had already taken this approach
from what I've read in the fedora forums.

Obviously if you have to recompile every app that runs on X this would
not be feasible, but I understand that this is not actually the case?
Please enlighten me.


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