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Re: Concerns about 'provenpackager' and why I didn't mass ACL open



On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:08:23PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> I cannot allay your concerns and I can see your point.  I'd like to
> mention, though, that func depends on the following packages with open acls:
> 
> pyOpenSSL, python, python-simplejson
> 
> So in terms of protecting against $EVIL, restricting provenpackager
> isn't very effective.
> 
> It is, effective for restricting people in provenpackager from making
> unaudited changes to your code, though.  So if you are a conscientious
> maintainer who is on top of their bug reports, restricting
> provenpackager could be good for everyone.  On the other hand, if you're
> a maintainer that has too many packages and other responsibilities and
> doesn't get around to fixing things (or at least showing presence on a
> bug) quickly, having provenpackager set is a definite detriment.

IMHO, provenpackager is the wrong solution to that problem. Rather than
having a large group of people with commit to (nearly) everything for
fixing minor issues, the focus should be on significantly increasing our
levels of co-maintainership. The ideal should be for every package in the 
distro to have at least 1 extra co-maintainer, or preferrably 3 or 4.
People with a little domain knowledge for the package who can handle 
both the low-hanging fruit the main maintainer misses, with less risk
of making mistakes due to lack of package specific knowledge. Sure it'd
take more people resources than 'provenpackager' solution, and likely 
require a big community publicity campaign to kick it off, but long
term it'd be more helpful & safer - particularly for 'infrastruture'
packages (python, perl, etc runtimes & important addon modules) and 
security sensitive packages (openssl, gnutls, func, koan, etc). 

Daniel
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