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Re: Proposal: Better force-tag



On Monday, 15 September 2008 at 20:15, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 12:23 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 17:52 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > > Ultimately nothing can stop the user from using cvs tag -F, so any
> > > > solution (including this one, which I like a lot) would have to be
> > > > server-side.
> > > 
> > > That's what they're planning to do, despite many objections. When will 
> > > the FeSCo minutes be available on the wiki ? I would like to know who 
> > > voted for this.
> > 
> > I'm planning to write up the summary later today, but the IRC logs are
> > available as soon as the meeting ends.
> > 
> > http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/
> 
> So, this is to dgilmore, bpepple, jds2001, and nirik (the 4 people that
> voted for this action):  you have just made it highly likely that you
> will not ever get my vote to participate as a member of FESCo again (I
> don't say this as a threat, just to let you know that your actions in
> this endeavor so directly counter what I want/expect out of FESCo that I
> don't consider you the right people for the job any more).

+1
/me makes a note not to vote for these as well.

[snip - excellent call]
> Look guys, maybe what we have here is a case of mis-communication.  So,
> let me communicate what I expect out of FESCo/Fedora.  Maybe I'm wrong
> and my expectations are unreasonable.  If so, I'll accept that answer.
> But what I saw here was what I would expect to see in some proprietary
> company under a self imposed deadline that cuts corners to get the job
> done.  I don't participate in Fedora for that.  I participate in Fedora
> because it's *supposed* to be the a place where we put quality above
> expediency and we don't just do things, we do them right.  In fact, I
> care about that so much that it is definitely a valid voting item as far
> as I'm concerned.  I don't see this as being anywhere close to doing
> things right, this is a sloppy, half-assed attempt to deal with a
> legitimate problem by not actually dealing with it at all.  I won't vote
> for that, so by extension I won't vote for people that support doing
> things this way.  If I'm in the wrong place, and Fedora is about doing
> things the expedient way instead of the right way, let me know and I'll
> let you be.

+1

And coming from someone @redhat.com, this is saying a lot.

Regards,
R.

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