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Re: The state of resolv.conf



Simo Sorce wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 15:09 +0200, Adam Tkac wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 05:01:29AM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 08:44 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 09:32 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote:
Wouldn't the best way be to have an api that can be used to add and
delete DNS servers and manipulate resolv.conf. Then we could have
deamons call that.
No what you really need is more than a simple resolv.conf file.

We need a default caching daemon (which by itself will solve a lot of
other issues) that tools like NM, vpnc, openvpn can interact with.
These tools will tell the caching daemon which IP ranges and which
domains their provided forwarders should be consulted for. All dynamic
so that as soon as one daemon goes away, the caching DNS will notice and
revert queries to the default DNS. And if NM/routes go away it can keep
working out of its cache.
If NM and routes go away I think you don't need DNS at all ;)

Well if you use NM only to manage your networks that is true, although
that's not the only way (and I also have VMs with virttual networks on
my laptop :-)

If you are interested only in caching why you cannot use nscd?

Not all programs use nscd as not all type of queries can be fulfilled by
the glibc interface. For example SRV/TXT records ...
Also nscd is not smart enough to understand network condition and adapt
it's behavior.

I have creation of NM support to BIND in TODO
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441057) but I haven't got
time for it yet. If vpnc/openvpn will interract with NM then you can ask
NM for DNS servers for every interface and then use them as "forwarders"
in BIND. Additionaly you can get advantage of DNSSEC aware resolver.

I am not concerned about the DNS server used to do this. It would be
nice tho if bind could consult different DNSs based 1) on the DNS name
to be queried, and B) the reverse IP to be queried.

IE when I connect to the RedHat VPN in some case I would like to have
all .redhat.com DNS queries sent to the RH DNS servers and all others
sent to my normal network DNS. Also for reverse lookups I'd like to send
to the RH network only the networks RH do manage, and not any other
networks in the world.

This will allow me to make efficient use of the VPN, and when I am on
slow links allows me to send non-RH queries to the local, much faster
DNS server instead of piping them through the VPN.

If you have multiple VPNs set up you can see how this becomes important,
esp. if each site you are connected to has its own DNS with private
views available only to internal clients.

Bind can already do this (see "if you want redirect target domains to different servers" in Adam's recent post). It's how I use it in conjunction with my employer's VPN.

Paul.



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