please deactivate services by default!

[Les Mikesell]

Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If I'm looking at the right docs, ssmtp doesn't do the two simple things
>> that need to be done:  aliasing, so you can get the system mail delivered to
>> the right person, and local delivery.
> 
> I guess there is a hard dependency between "cron with custom user
> cronjobs" and sendmail.  I don't want to break that, and it's probably
> too late in the cycle for this change anyways. It does suck to have
> everyone take this startup time hit if they're not using custom jobs,
> but it's been slow for years, so we can take another cycle of slow.
> 
> For the next cycle, one possible solution to this is to have cron
> itself start sendmail if there are custom jobs.  The system jobs
> should on failure be treated as OS component crashes and be handled
> through the same mechanism as
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CrashHandling

Is is strictly necessary for sendmail to start in its ordered position? 
  Why not peel out the daemons that don't have particular dependencies 
and  background their startup so they continue to happen as you log in? 
   There's not really a good way to intervene if there are problems 
anyway, so why wait?

-- 
   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell at gmail.com