FESco meeting summary for 20090410

Jon Stanley jonstanley at gmail.com
Wed Apr 15 02:52:32 UTC 2009


Sorry for the late summary, but here it is....


== Members Present ==

 * Jon Stanley (jds2001)
 * Kevin Fenzi (nirik)
 * Dan Horak (sharkcz)
 * Josh Boyer (jwb)
 * Brian Pepple (bpepple)

== Members Absent ==

 * David Woodhouse (dwmw2)
 * Bill Nottingham (notting)
 * Jarod Wilson (j-rod)
 * Dennis Gilmore (dgilmore)

== Sponsor request - rjones ==

This request was approved.

== Non-provenpackager committable packages ==

Lengthy discussion based on questions from the LVM team, see
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/124 for details of the
questions.  Answers include:

1) Since very few members of FESCo are privy to full details of the
security incident beyond what has been made public (reference
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00010.html
for details), FESCo would not be quorate if members that did not have
that specific knowledge abstained from voting in this matter.
However, the method of attack that was used is a specific threat
addressed in the threat assessment that has not yet been made public
regarding this decision, which was prepared by an individual not on
FESCo that does have full knowledge of the incident.  FESCo would like
to make this threat assessment public, however, we have delayed a
decision on this until the following meeting due to low turnout to
this meeting (it took place on a Red Hat holiday).

2) There is fear amongst FESCo that if we grant this exception, based
on "no one in provenpackager has reason to touch this package", we
start down a very slippery slope that leads us back to where we are
today. Note that this is the same reason we declined excpetions to
initscripts and hwdata.

3) There was no dissent amongst members present on the above two items.

If the LVM team still has further issues for FESCo, we will invite
them to a future meeting for a more interactive discussion.

It was also decided that enough time has passed to open the ACL's on
all packages except for LVM items and Firefox/Thunderbird/XULRunner as
was decided at previous meetings.

== Features ==

=== DebugInfoFS ===

The [[Features/DebuginfoFS   | DebuginfoFS]] feature was approved for Fedora 12.

=== Systemtap Static Probes ===

The [[Features/SystemtapStaticProbes | Systemtap Static Probes]]
feature was approved for Fedora 12.

=== liblvm ===

FESCo deferred voting on this feature over concerns about the
implications for anaconda, and wondering if this was actually a
feature at all.

=== Multiseat ===

The [[Features/Multiseat | Multiseat]] feature was approved for Fedora 12.

=== Dracut ===

FESCo deferred voting on Dracut due to the lack of domain expert availability

== Ctrl-Alt-Backspace ==

FESCo was requested to "order" the Xorg maintainers to enable the
functionality of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill the X server, as it has
been in previous releases.  FESCo declined to intervene in this
matter, as it is a configuration option, accessible via either the GUI
or a configuration file, to re-enable it, as well as a general belief
that the micro-managing of maintainers oni issues such as this should
be done only in the most grave and dire of circumstances.

== Deactivated maintainers ==

A final email will be sent this week to all maintainers of packages
whose accounts are currently deactivated.  If they remain deactivated
in 7 days, packages belonging to those accounts will be orphaned.




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