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Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:13:34PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>drago01 wrote:
>> Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single
>> package obsolete a complete group update?
>> That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it.
>It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, 
>we learned to be careful about what we push when), but a maintainer should 
>know how to use our tools, which includes being aware of their limitations. 

I use bodhi every day.  I have yet to find all it's limitations.  There are
known limitations that aren't even documented.  I think it's a bit far
reaching to say that maintainers should just know, when there is no good way
for them to know without either reading the code or excessive use.

>Double-checking things both before and after filing an update (e.g. checking 
>before filing the new update request) definitely can't hurt (I always do 
>that), and it will help avoiding issues you don't even know about, or at 
>least catching them earlier than 2 months after the fact (as happened here).

That's decent advice, but it will not catch quite a number of the problems
that we see come up.


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