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Re: Reconnectable X - improve desktop reliability



Chris Tyler wrote:
(2) "Zillions of real people" have random X server crashes where the
rest of the system stays up and their applications keep running?

It's happened to me, not often, but it happens. Then there are the cases where X goes off the deep end (I had to kill it once after its footprint had ballooned to over 7 GB(!)) or otherwise needs to be restarted.

Heck, just to be able to upgrade X without logging out would be useful.

Huh. I
manage dozens of machines with a wide range of different X
configurations -- some of them really unusual -- and I don't experience
that. And I work on a campus with hundreds of Linux systems and it
doesn't happen there either. I must be really lucky.

...or you don't use any nvidia cards, or else people with nvidia cards don't care about Shininess.

I have two boxes with nvidia, only one of them has working GL. (This one has three heads, and two cards that only ever worked together "nicely" once, circa F8. These days I consider myself lucky to have X working across them at all, and GL hasn't worked in ages.)

Frankly, in my context, reroutable would be far more useful than
reconnectable. But see (1).

Xrandr should already allow you to bring up a second display (which could be anything; crt, lcd, projector) and move windows over to it. Or there is X-over-TCP.

So either X already does what you want, or what you are asking for is the ability to change in real time what X server an app is using... which is 90% the same* as "reconnectable". Therefore, I don't understand the objection.

(* "Reconnectable" needs that apps don't go piff along with their X server. "Reroutable" (option 3) needs to change the server proactively, rather than just reactively. Both need the ability for apps to change X server.)

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