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Re: Ready for new RPM version?

On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 12:09 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 09:54 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > It would be nice to have everyone who works on Rawhide, work *from*
> > > Rawhide. I suspect this would make people generally less keen to break
> > > stuff. =)
> > 
> > That's precisely why it's not practical to use Rawhide as a day-to-day
> > platform. I know others will disagree and that's fine, but I long since
> > switched back to a stable Fedora 9/10 setup. It's tough enough ever
> > getting a rawhide that will install, let alone not break randomly.
> Chicken and egg situation. Someone has to take the leap.

Sure. I'll let someone who's not using a VPN, email, or anything
involving passwords and tokens they care about do that. Meanwhile, I'll
use something that's got signed packages for my daily stuff.

> Eventually,
> once enough developers are on Rawhide, there'll be a culture where
> people generally don't break things too egregiously, and are immediately
> complained-at if they do, workarounds become known, fixes are made
> quickly. But anyhoo, I have more developed thoughts along these lines
> coming in future.

I go through phases of thinking this, but then I wonder how that gels
with having the ability to be the playground of the latest and greatest
technology, which is when I realize that the two are incompatible.

> > KVM is great at letting one poke safely at stuff.
> Sure, but nothing beats hardware. =)

I disagree. Only time that even makes a difference is if you're using
some specific gadget you can't pass through, or actually have some
specific hardware you need to test - granted, actual testing should
happen outside of VMs, but for much of userland stuff, it makes
absolutely no difference. Even sound passthrough works now :P


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