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Re: [Fedora-spins] Spins SIG Meeting(s) / Agenda!

Bill Nottingham wrote:
Rahul Sundaram (sundaram fedoraproject org) said:
No, it is not. I have to spend a lot of time, getting that kickstart file in place first. It isn't a simple matter of running some composes and calling it a day. There is a heck lot of finicky details to take care of. Rawhide breaks my compose in subtle ways. You are in rel-eng. You know the amount of work it takes to get alpha,beta and general releases out. Are you really asking me to do that work every two weeks for multiple spins?

In many respects, yes. Because otherwise it falls to the 'base' rel-eng
and QA to constantly do that work, and that doesn't scale. If people
want their own custom spins, they do have to put some skin in the game.

It's not really adding anything to the amount of work that needs to be
done, in total. It's just shifting around who it gets done by and when.

QA hasn't been involved in custom spins ever to my knowledge. I haven't received any input from them ever. So let's leave QA out. In rel-eng, the only person involved on a regular interval is Jesse Keating (and Josh Boyer has helped as well) has sometimes run into issues and there hasn't been any major problem that I haven't responded to on time but doing composes and full fledged testing and reports every two weeks for all the different spins throughout rawhide development just isn't feasible. Automate more of this process via daily composes and automated tests and I can fill in the gaps that require manual supervision. I am already doing composes on my own and testing to the extend I can. There really isn't any room for me to do more.


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