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Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release



On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius<rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
> On 07/26/2009 09:28 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
>>
>> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/26/2009 02:37 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "all of my system has a wrong openssl version"
>>>>>
>>>>> all these symptoms sound like your upgrade went horribly wrong. I've
>>>>> seen preupgrade mash up a box by half upgrading like that. It's the
>>>>> main
>>>>> reason
>>>>> I don't think preupgrade is actually safe to use yet.
>>>>
>>>> Preupgrade's process is to depsolve - using the same method anaconda
>>>> does, download the pkgs it solves out. Put them in a cachedir. Download
>>>> a kernel and an initrd, Setup a ks.cfg. then reboot the machine and
>>>> allow anaconda to do the install.
>>>>
>>>> Specific issues we've had with preupgrade are related to not being able
>>>> to find a mirror and/or not being able to get pkgs.
>>>
>>> Mine were
>>> * preupgrade running out of diskspace on / when trying to fill
>>> /var/cache/yum (my "/"'s tend to be minimized/small)
>>
>> You're not blaming Preupgrade for the partition being too small, are you?
>
> Well, to some extend, I am blaming it, because
> a) filling '/' may easily kill a system and may easily cause further damage
> (processes running in parallel to preupgrade might be malfunctioning due
> lack of diskspace).
>
> b) I expect an installer to be able to check whether sufficient space is
> available in advance, rsp. not to leave a system in an unusable state in
> case of something going wrong.
>
> In BZ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503183
> I questioned whether using /var/cache/yum is a good choice for preupgrade's
> package cache. Though I meanwhile know that this BZ is was a side-effect of
> the nfs-parser bugs in anaconda, I still think using /root or /tmp would be
> better choices.

No, some people (me included) use tmpfs for /tmp , so this would
result into reboot, no packages found (if it did not hit a space
problem either).
/root is not supposed to be used by random apps.


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