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Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 14:53 +0000, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> I appreciate the clarification from you and Matt on the request. As
> you know Jesse my, and Unity's, goal has been for a while has been to
> get Fedora in to the hands of as many people as possible with the
> least amount of "pain." That is why we make the Re-Spins, it was why
> we made the original Live media. I know and understand the extra man
> hours required to properly test all the different varieties of media.
> As I said Unity will produce CDs for those that need/want them should
> RE or whoever decides that it is impractical for Fedora Project to
> continue producing them. Another compromise I am sure that would work
> for us is if you produced them, handed them off to us for testing and
> distribution. 

My (mostly unfounded) worry is that Fedora Unity is reacting to requests
without investigating the reasoning behind the request.  Think of this
as the Henry Ford problem.  If all Henry Ford did was produce what his
customers asked for, all we'd have right now is fast horses.  What we
need to be doing is investigating why these people think they need split
CDs, to be certain that there is no other offering within the Fedora
universe that satisfies their needs.

Just producing it, somebody will download it, because they know no
better, so having numbers that say "somebody wanted it" isn't enough in
my book, and right now, I feel that the anaconda, qa, releng teams are
being held hostage by Fedora Unity due to blanket claims of "if Fedora
Project does not produce them Fedora Unity will".

Looking around the "competition":
 Ubuntu - Live CD or DVD
 Mandriva - DVD, Live CD, or purchasable flash stick
 OpenSuSE - DVD, Live CD, or netinstall iso
 Gentoo - Single CD or Live image.  Mostly set to network install
 Debian - 31 CDs or 5 DVDs
 Slackware - 6 CDs or a DVD

So it seems only Debian and Slackware still dabble in split CDs,
everyone else has moved on to either a Live image, or a minimal install
iso that sets you up for network install.  We have both of those, a
plethora of Live images to choose from as well as a netinst.iso that
sets you up for a network install, and we have our DVD image.  Is that
truly not enough?

Jesse Keating
Fedora -- FreedomĀ² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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