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Re: an update to automake-1.11?



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 02:05:57PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> I was rather surprised to see:
> 
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-6661
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-6076
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6370
> 
> Where the automake was upgraded to 1.11 for F9, F10, and F11.
> 
> In general automake hasn't had a very good track record of compatibility
> between 1.x and 1.y, though this has been getting better recently.
> I don't see any specific mentions of incompatible changes in a quick
> scan of:
> 
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2009-05/msg00093.html
> 
> But it is also a pretty long release announcement so it wouldn't
> surprise me if there were some subtle incompatibilities.
> 
> The only breakage I'm actually aware of in the gnome-common package;
> gnome-common-2.26 and earlier doesn't know that automake-1.11 is 
> a valid replacement when automake-1.10 is asked for.
> 
> So, we definitely need to release an update for gnome-common, or people
> aren't going to be able to do GNOME development on F11.
> 
> But is this the type of upgrade that makes sense in general? It seems to
> me that we should be very conservative in upgrading build tools,
> especially in "maintenance mode" distributions like F9 and F10.

This is seriously dubious for F9, since if it causes a problem there
is next to no time in which to fix it before F9 updates are turned 
off.  In general I struggle to believe that there is a compelling
need to rebase automake versions in our stable releases.

Daniel
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