System Config Tools Cleanup Project - tools to eliminate/replace

[Suren Karapetyan]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
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>> Matthew Woehlke wrote:
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>>> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
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>>>> Actually, I feel s-c-network should be revived and NetworkManager be made
>>>> strictly optional.
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>>> I'd actually have to disagree. I *love* NM on my Asus (netbook).
>>>       
>> Congratulations.
>>
>> For me,
>> - NM doesn't work on any machine w/ WLAN
>> - NM is just bloated ballast on machines w/o WLAN
>>     
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> I believe you are in a very small minority with that view.
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>>>  It's
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>>> great for laptops (or other computers that tend to move around and need to
>>> deal with "foreign" networks,
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>> Seemingly it's sufficiently functional for some people in such situation. I
>> don't have such demands.
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> It's more than functional for most people in most situations.
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>>> especially wireless networks), and it's "okay" for desktops.
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>> Yes, it works "sufficiently" on my desktops, but ... at which price?
>> ... Instability caused by silly "dark magic",
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> Oh please.
>
>   
>> ... no cli
>> ... no network profiles
>>     
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> Both valid concerns.
>
>   
>> ... bloat
>>     
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> Made up over used word thrown around as as a subject non specific
> critic of any software someone doesn't like
>   
Come on... :)
A full-fledged daemon running all the time sitting on the system bus
waking up every few seconds (to eat CPU) which is going to do

ifconfig eth0 111.111.111.111/24 up
ip route add default via 111.111.111.222
echo "nameserver 111.111.111.123" > /etc/resolv.conf

And do it only *once* every reboot (which can easily be 30+ days).

This makes sense neither for servers nor for desktops.
It's useful for laptops which travel a lot (not even all laptops, cause 
many of them are used as desktop-replacements).

What I'm asking for is to allow free choice, cause , you know, there is 
no such thing as "one true way",
i.e. what is the only way in one situation may be completely useless and 
even stupid in another.
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>> My network isn't compliated (static IPs, static topologic, yp based autofs,
>> DHCP).
>> It's just that NM can't handle it properly.
>>     
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> Since I've been told that NM can handle static IPs now, i don't see
> why any of the above would be a problem.
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