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Re: F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

Dan Nicholson wrote:
2009/3/28 Gerry Reno <greno verizon net>:
Dan Nicholson wrote:

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa gmail com> wrote:

[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-September/038786.html

The poll was meaningless; that thread just captures people's
sentiments. When the patch was committed, it was because the X
developers had been talking about it for a long time as being the
right thing to do.

The X developers had been talking about without ANY community input.  That
makes for very bad decisions.  They didn't even realize that people expect
the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to be available to them as it has for decades.  What
is left unsaid is that there a lot of emacs users in Xorg.  Despite the fact
that they sign as "a vim user",  they're all vim users but mostly emacs
users,  and that's not the same as signing "not an emacs user".

Please stop with the conspiracy theory. This has nothing to do with
emacs. It has everything to do with people accidentally killing their
X session. I have no idea where you've gotten the idea that this was
done for emacs users. Read Daniel's reply to you again.


This is not a conspiracy theory.  If you've ever used emacs you know that they have a number of Ctrl-Alt-XXXXX sequences that are very close to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  And emacs users have whined about everything Ctrl-Alt such as Ctrl-Alt-Del, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, etc. 

In thirty years of administering and managing *nix systems inside companies that have tens of thousands of employees,
I have never had a user come to me and complain that they were having trouble because they kept killing their X server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.   Daniel rammed this change into Xorg without ANY community input.  And further there is no statisically significant number of cases where people are killing their X server accidentally.  The only user community that has ever had this problem is the Emacs community because of their similar keystroke combinations to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.


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