Update -> b0rken eclipse
Linuxguy123
linuxguy123 at gmail.com
Mon May 11 05:51:12 UTC 2009
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 01:18 -0400, Dimi Paun wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:25 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > Also, why is it so hard to install with the Update
> > Manager? I'm curious both as a Fedora maintainer and an upstream
> > person.
>
> OK, so this is a partial story (now that I have things working,
> I can not easily reproduce all problems). But check this out.
>
> Problem: you are a Java developer and need the Web Server Tools
>
> 1. You go to Software Updates ...
> 2. There's no WST anywhere, so you click on "Manage Sites", which
> looks something like this:
> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/52/screenshotavailablesoft.png
>
> WTF?!? Which one do I pick? You try to parse the URLs, there's
> no "web" in there it seems.
>
> 3. So you say, OK, let's add the site:
> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2415/screenshotaddsite.png
>
> Great, but where do I find it, how? You go on the eclipse.org
> site, you click around, the information is hard to find.
> You find lots of complicated download pages, you lose a lot of
> time finding the silly URL, finally you discover it on the
> download page and wonder why you didn't find it the first 2-3
> times you looked at it.
>
> 4. You add the site, and try to install the WST. You expand it
> and you see this:
> http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/881/screenshotsoftwareupdat.png
>
> Dali? Patch Features? WTF?!? All I want are the Web tools!
>
> 5. So you expand one more level to try to find what you're looking for:
> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/881/screenshotsoftwareupdat.png
>
> Holly crap! What do you pick from there? This would make a grown
> man cry :) So you go and pick a few safe things that seem reasonable
> (Java EE Developer Tools, Eclipse XML Editor and Tools, etc)
>
> 6. Then you click "Install":
> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5549/screenshotprogressinfor.png
>
> This is great. So it looks up dependencies, etc. But wait!
> At the end of the install, I get a small dialog telling me that the
> install failed due to missing dependencies (despite the dependency
> check saying it was OK)! You parse the cryptic names, and install
> some EMF that might seem to help. Try again. Fail! Add GFE, that
> might help. Fail. Similar error at the _end_ of the install.
>
> WTF? What next? Maybe instead of installing all 4 features at once,
> lets try to do it one by one. What do you know, that works...
>
> As I was writing this, I realized that maybe some of the problems stem
> from the fact that I started with a non-pristine .eclipse dir.
>
> So I've erased it, and tried again:
> - add the WST project site
> - select the 4 components I am interested in
> - click install:
> http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4483/screenshotinstall.png
>
> What am I supposed to do next?
>
> The whole thing is an interaction disaster. When I add a site it
> should automatically read some metadata and add any dependencies
> automatically, etc, etc. This is DLL/RPM/you-name-it hell all
> over again.
I think I had similar problems.
You might want to check out a series of posts on Eclipse setup issues in
the Fedora-list list starting on November 30th, 2008. The "solved"
thread starts on December 4th, 2008.
You might also want to check out
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474509
It gives a more concise description, but without some of the background
information.
Once I installed Eclipse properly, everything worked perfectly,
including adding new features and updating.
LG.
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