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Re: 182 pending F11 stable updates. WTF?



On Mon, 11 May 2009 08:07:56 +0200, Ralf wrote:

> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >> e.g. being unable to update F11 packages because
> >> prerequisite package deps are not available in F11.
> > 
> > That's what buildroot overrides are for.
> "buildroot overrides" are an inefficient bureaucratic cludge, to 
> workaround and the play down the defects of rel-eng's process.
> It's exactly the plague, I am trying to get rid of and want to see 
> replaced with something more efficient.

The basic idea of buildroot protection is good. What doesn't work well so
far, however, is how the buildroot overrides are executed. A packager
submits a releng ticket, the request is accepted, the tag gets created,
the incompatible package enters the buildroots, no announcement is sent,
danger lies ahead. As pointed out elsewhere in this thread, this has hit
qtorrent (rb_libtorrent, springlobby) for Fedora 11. The process would
be much better if (a) all buildroot overrides would be announced in a
prominent place and (b) marking incompatible packages "stable" in order
to skip the buildroot override procedure would be forbidden.


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