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Re: Downgrading Firefox 3.5 and Thunderbird 3.0



On 05/11/2009 11:25 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Downgrading Firefox 3.5 and Thunderbird 3.0
> From: Douglas E. Warner <silfreed silfreed net>
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora
> <fedora-devel-list redhat com>
> Date: 05/11/2009 09:37 AM
> 
>>
>> I agree; extension developers are in a similar situation to package
>> maintainers here; they need to test their product against a moving
>> upstream
>> and re-release when working.  The fact that they haven't done this yet
>> is just
>> a clue that it's not time to update Firefox/Thunderbird.
> 
> 
> The only time you get extension developers to update[1] is when the
> final Firefox update is released. Should Firefox releases wait on
> extension developers? Think about that for a second. Really think about
> that. If an extension you use is that important to you you should create
> a bug on mozilla.org for a feature request and make it a blocker of the
> next release. Good luck on that.
> 
> This whole thread so far is sensationalist crap.
> 
> Every day people bitch that Fedora is not bleeding enough. Now we have
> people bitching about a Fedora release, not even at GA, being too
> bleeding. Stop, read, and listen to yourselves before replying to this
> thread again. This discussion happens constantly and it is tiresome. The
> time wasted in these type of discussions is better spent elsewhere. Work
> on getting your extension developer involved in Firefox updates. (*GASP*)
> 
> [1] Sure, some extensions such as Adblock stay on top of Firefox
> changes, but not all extensions do.
> 

I never said that Mozilla releases should wait on extension releases. I
said that Firefox and Thunderbird packages in a "stable" Fedora should
be based on stable Mozilla releases, not pre-releases.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having Firefox 3.5b4 and
Thunderbird 3.0b2 in the updates-testing repository and rawhide, once
the release is out, but it's really problematic for users if they're
upgraded into an unsupported, unstable version of their most important
tools.

And as I said in a previous email: I can forgive Firefox 3.5b4 since
it's due to go stable before Fedora 12, but there's not a snowball's
chance in Hell that the same is true of Thunderbird.

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