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Re: 182 pending F11 stable updates. WTF?



On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam redhat com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 16:18 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>
>> Sure, but how did you get that CD in the first place?  I'm having
>> trouble thinking of scenarios where somehow you acquire a CD that you
>> didn't download yourself, but you already have Fedora installed, and
>> you don't have access to enough network bandwidth to upgrade.
>
> I don't know how much it happens for Fedora, but for MDV, there are
> significant communities in countries with mainly slow internet
> connections, where one person who had a fast connection through work or
> an education institution or something like that would download the
> images, and burn and distribute copies to many other people.

Ok, well, maybe the right thing is for the DVD images to have the
installed live RPMs also in RPM form so they can be used as a package
cache as well.  Or maybe instead we figure out how to reconstruct the
RPMs from the installed image reliably (not sure what the blockers are
there).

Anyways I'm not saying the DVDs shouldn't be possible to use for
upgrading, what I'm arguing against is the user experience of the DVD
where it just boots into anaconda and asks questions like "Do you want
to install a server or a desktop?  Do you want OpenOffice?" etc.  A
much better experience is for it to boot into a full working desktop,
and from there you can image it to your drive if you like what you
see, but also in the menus or somewhere else have other options.


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