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Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

On 11/26/2009 03:11 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:04:43PM +0000, Terry Barnaby wrote:
On 11/26/2009 02:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/26/2009 08:09 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:

I have not entered any bugzilla numbers as yet. I spent days with F11 and
previous releases diagnosing reporting and attempting to fix bugs. No
graphics updates were ever made available for F11 and still Fedora cannot
run even Blender on most of my machines. At the moment I am not
convinced that
it is worth spending this time on F12. It seems likely no updates will
appear and in F13 the whole ball game may have changed anyway.

Seems a bunch of incorrect assumptions considering that Fedora 11 did
get many updates and I already see updates for Fedora 12 in
updates-testing repository. Specific bug reports are definitely going to


Sorry, should have been more specific. On the graphics package front, there
have been no ATI or Intel X11 driver updates in F11 so far. Mesa was last
updated 14th of June. Not sure about DRM as that is in the kernel and may
have been updated with kernel updates.

xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-9.fc11	ajax	2009-11-20 20:35:24
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-8.fc11	mjg59	2009-09-24 20:58:55
xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-7.fc11	krh	2009-05-28 19:32:16

xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.12.2-18.fc11	airlied	2009-06-29 02:40:01

And from kernel changelogs:
* Fri Sep 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert<cebbert redhat com>
- Disable the GEM graphics manager on i686 PAE kernels
   (fixes modesetting on Intel graphics.)

* Fri Aug 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert<cebbert redhat com>
- Linux
- Dropped drm-intel-tv-fix.patch, merged in -stable now.

  Wed Aug 12 2009 Kyle McMartin<kyle redhat com>
- DRM patch sync-up with F-11-2.6.29.y, ABI probably isn't right yet though...
  - drm-modesetting-radeon.patch
  - drm-nouveau.patch
  - drm-no-gem-on-i8xx.patch
  - drm-i915-resume-force-mode.patch
  - drm-intel-big-hammer.patch
  - drm-intel-gen3-fb-hack.patch
  - drm-intel-hdmi-edid-fix.patch
  - drm-modesetting-radeon-fixes.patch
  - drm-radeon-new-pciids.patch
  - drm-dont-frob-i2c.patch
  - drm-intel-tv-fix.patch
  - drm-radeon-cs-oops-fix.patch
  - drm-pnp-add-resource-range-checker.patch
  - drm-i915-enable-mchbar.patch
- The rest were merged upstream.

   Anyway, I understand you sentiment. I was bitten by Intel graphics bug (EQ overflowing)
which wasn't fixed for all F11 life. Things are much better in F12 now.
But still, without any bug number we have nothing to talk about.

Mind you the above xorg packages are not in F11 updates ...
I note that there is a package in fedora-testing for xorg-x11-drv-intel but
I can't see anything for xorg-x11-drv-ati is this somewhere else ?
For me F12 seems worse than F11, so far on this aspect. I'm sure others mileage will vary in the same manner as the number of different graphics boards :)

As you obviously know tracking down and reporting bugs like these do take a lot of time and effort, quite often more than actually fixing them. At the moment with the frequency of Fedora releases and the lack of a push to testing and stability on this front I am not enthused, at the moment, with doing this and I suspect many others feel the same.



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