RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

[Adam Jackson]

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:35 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Adam Jackson (ajax at redhat.com):
> > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:23 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > There is no case where I want a new window or popup to take focus.  Makes
> > > for an easy algorithm.  (hitting r in mutt is not a problem :)
> > 
> > There is no case where _you_ want this, sure.
> 
> Yes, exactly.  You're saying that
> 	1. there are cases where you want a window to pop up
> 	2. it's too complicated to figure out which windows should pop up
> 	3. so windows should always pop up, no point being configurable
>
> and ridiculing us over (2).  I'm saying there are no cases where I want
> a popup, so we can easily have 2 configurable options: always have windows
> pop up and take focus, never have them do so.

Ahh, I see the misunderstanding here: I'm not arguing point three.  I'm
not even really arguing point 2, as you phrased it; it's not _too_
complicated, it's merely complicated.

I'm arguing that there exists an implementation that tries to prevent
focus stealing, and trying to illustrate why that's a hard problem. And
thus, why the OP's RFE as stated, is either not achievable, or not
desirable.

I mean, in some sense, this is all academic anyway.  It's trivial to
write an X app that steals focus, regardless of what the window manager
attempts to implement.  But even assuming you're running relatively
well-behaved applications, it's still not an easy problem.

- ajax
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