Common Lisp apps in Fedora

Jerry James loganjerry at gmail.com
Fri Jan 8 21:59:21 UTC 2010


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler at chello.at> wrote:
> Ouch, we weren't aware of all these issues when we approved common-lisp-
> controller in FESCo. :-( It was "sold" to us as something great and working
> perfectly. I wasn't aware that it didn't actually work at all at this time
> and I strongly doubt the rest of FESCo was either. It makes no sense to have
> a packaging guideline mandate using something which doesn't work.

The alternative to common-lisp-controller, for libraries at least, is
to have lots of subpackages:

trivial-features-ccl
trivial-features-clisp
trivial-features-cmu
trivial-features-ecl
trivial-features-gcl
trivial-features-sbcl

And you also have to keep trivial-features-src around in case someone
buys an Allegro license.  I can see why Debian went with
common-lisp-controller for that case.  It helps keep insanity at bay.
But I think we need to have an escape clause for applications, and
also for libraries that take a significant amount of time/space to
compile.

If we're going to use it for (some) libraries, then we also need to
fix it so that it works on as many CLs as possible.  A number greater
than zero would be good. :-)  Some kind of response to the fix I
suggested for SBCL in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499182 would be nice, too.
 I guess I should make that an actual patch instead of a suggested sed
operation. :-)

Hmmmm, I just looked upstream to see if this has been fixed, and found
that the last CVS checkin was 4 years ago.  That isn't encouraging.
Is upstream dead, or could it be awakened if shouted at?
-- 
Jerry James
http://www.jamezone.org/




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