[Fedora-directory-devel] ACI evaluation

[discover]

I have used the ACL logging and is helpful a little . It does not show 
the "weight" or "cost" of each acl evaluation . As David mentioned , may 
be trying it out may be the only way?!

Also the logs show AC s evaluating entry/attribute rights for the client 
DN for attributes neither  in the filter nor in the  attributes to 
return .I was expecting to see only for the attributes in the search 
filter or the returned attributes .

Also the ACL Cache, what is the size ? Does this come out of entrycache ?

Is ACL eval memory intensive ?
Thanks

Rich Megginson wrote:

> There are two useful ACI development utilities.  The first is the 
> special ACL Summary error log level.  This can provide very useful 
> information about ACI evaluation without the extremely verbose output 
> of the "regular" aci log level.  The second is the Get Effective 
> Rights query, so you can do queries like "If I were to BIND as user X, 
> would I be able to read/write this attribute?  If I were to bind as 
> user X, what attributes would be visible to me?".
>
> Jeff Clowser wrote:
>
>> I don't think the order in which they are processed matters (maybe 
>> very slightly from a performance pov, but not from a "what can I do" 
>> pov).
>>
>> Denies take precedence over allows no matter where they are, and all 
>> aci's are cumulative, so your access is the combined set of 
>> permissions defined, no matter the order they are in.  Also, deny is 
>> the default, so a lack of an aci to allow something will deny it 
>> (FWIW, I never use deny aci's if at all possible, because there is no 
>> way to override them with a subsequent allow - better to carefully 
>> define what you allow and where).
>>
>> This is much different than openldap aci's, where the order is very 
>> important.
>>
>> In your example, presumably anonymous will have some base level of 
>> access, and config, directory, and group admin aci's will give 
>> additional access.  Adding a user to each of these groups will extend 
>> their access by what each aci allows, and putting users in more than 
>> one of these groups will just allow them more access, but the order 
>> they appear in doesn't matter (and given that they are in the same 
>> entry, there is no way to specify/guarantee the order anyway).
>>
>> - Jeff
>>
>> discover wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks David . Regarding the order of ACI , I meant for example, say 
>>> there are 4 ACIs on dc=example,dc=com.
>>> One for config admins, one for directory admins, Anonymous Access 
>>> and one for group admin listed in that order. Whether this 
>>> particular order has any impact ? Or the order is insignificant ?
>>>
>>> David Boreham wrote:
>>>
>>>> discover wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to see the order of ACI evaluation for search/mod 
>>>>> ...etc ? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not easily. You might me able to glean some information by enabling
>>>> access control logging and looking at the error log output when you 
>>>> submit
>>>> an operation.
>>>>
>>>>> Also does the order of ACI impact the performance ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably not. (not sure if you mean the order the aci attributes
>>>> are added to the DS -- in that case absolutely not; or if you
>>>> are asking about the internal ordering of clauses within a
>>>> single aci -- in that case probably not).
>>>>
>>>> To gain a total understanding you'd really need to step through
>>>> the code in the debugger, which would only suit those
>>>> with a strong constitution.
>>>>
>>>>
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