[Fedora-directory-users] NSUniqueID
Bjorn Oglefjorn
sys.mailing at gmail.com
Wed May 16 14:47:07 UTC 2007
On 5/15/07, Richard Megginson <rmeggins at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <rmeggins at redhat.com
> > <mailto:rmeggins at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > nscpEntryWsi: nsUniqueId: 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000
> > This looks like the entry before modification? What does the
> > entry look
> > like after modification? Another attribute you can use to uniquely
> > identify an entry in a single backend is the entryid attribute.
> > However, the entryid is not globally unique across all backends and
> > replicas.
> >
> >
> > This above is the entry as it currently lives in LDAP. The NSUniqueID
> > value there is the _new_ value. As I stated before:
> > "I can also tell you that NSUniqueID was
> > 19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000
> > then changed to 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000"
> >
> > I don't think there is a way for me to search for the entry as it was
> > before the modification is there?
> If it were deleted or turned into some other sort of replication fix-up
> entry, then searching by
>
> (&(objectclass=nsTombstone)(nsuniqueid=19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000))
> should find it. I assume you already searched for
> (nsuniqueid=19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000) and found nothing.
Correct, both of those searches return nothing.
> I can tell you that a mail attribute value was removed and added
> > before this change in nsuniqueid occurred.
> So if you just remove and add a mail attribute value to any entry, does
> the nsuniqueid change happen? I'm assuming not, based on what you
> said. So something else has to happen to make the nsuniqueid value
> change.
This is a rare occurrence and I've yet to nail down what is actually causing
it. By far, most modify operations do not cause nsuniqueid to change.
This particular case seems strange to me. The first thing that happens
> to the entry is it's creation:
> nscpEntryWsi: createTimestamp;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: 20070305235111Z
> nscpEntryWsi: creatorsName;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000:
> uid=creator,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
>
> At this time, many of the other attributes are added to the entry:
> nscpEntryWsi: userPassword;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000:
> {crypt}xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ...
> nscpEntryWsi: uidNumber;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: 12498
>
> Then, sometime later, the posix attributes are added/modified:
> nscpEntryWsi: uid;vucsn-45eee916000000010000;mdcsn-45eee916000000010000:
> auser
> ...
> nscpEntryWsi: sn;adcsn-45eee916000100010000;vucsn-45eee916000100010000:
> User
>
> This seems odd - were these attributes originally added with other
> values, then changed? Was the original dn uid=auser, or was this changed?
If that is true, that is indeed odd. Looking back through my audit logs
shows only the change to the mail attribute values. Is there another way I
can check and see the change of the posix attributes?
Then, sometime later, the mail attribute was changed:
> nscpEntryWsi:
> modifyTimestamp;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000:
> 20070514213629Z
> nscpEntryWsi:
> modifiersName;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000:
> uid=modifier,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
> nscpEntryWsi:
> mail;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser
> example com <mailto:auser%20example%20com>
> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser email example com
> <mailto:auser%20email%20example%20com>
> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: Another User example com
> <mailto:Another%20User%20example%20com>
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks again Richard.
> > > --BO
> > >
> > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins at redhat.com
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> > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> > > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins at redhat.com
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> > > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> > > > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <
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> > > > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> > > > > > That's the problem Richard, I'm not sure how it
> > > > happens. I can tell
> > > > > > you this much though. I am using NSUniqueID as
> a
> > > globally
> > > > unique id
> > > > > > for a one-way sync agreement to a specific
> > application
> > > > (from FDS to
> > > > > > the application). The requirement for the
> > globally
> > > unique
> > > > id is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > it never changes. If it somehow does change,
> > the sync
> > > > process
> > > > > > provides an error stating that the globally
> > unique
> > > ids in FDS
> > > > > and the
> > > > > > application no longer match. I can't
> > determine exactly
> > > > what is
> > > > > > causing this change, but I do know that it is
> > happening.
> > > > > But how does the sync process/application
> determine
> > > that the
> > > > unique ID
> > > > > has changed? And is it possible that some
> > application is
> > > > writing
> > > > > to the
> > > > > nsUniqueID attribute and changing its value
> > > externally? Are
> > > > you using
> > > > > replication?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no application that has write access to our
> > LDAP
> > > user tree.
> > > > > I am using a dual multi-master replication
> > setup. What about
> > > > > replication would cause the NSUniqueID to change?
> > > > If you delete an entry then add it back with the same
> > DN and
> > > mail
> > > > value,
> > > > it will generate a new nsUniqueID for the new
> > entry. Also,
> > > certain
> > > > replication operations may generate replication conflict
> > > entries. In
> > > > this case, you could see two entries with the same mail
> > > attribute but
> > > > different nsUniqueID values and different DNs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The entry was not deleted, only the mail attribute was
> > > modified. The
> > > > RDN contains the uid of the entry.
> > > Could you perhaps post the entry before and after the
> > modification? I
> > > would really like to see the entry with all of the
> > replication state
> > > information. You can get this by listing the special
> attribute
> > > nscpEntryWsi e.g.
> > > ldapsearch .... (nsuniqueid=value) nscpEntryWsi
> > >
> > > Be sure to obscure any sensitive information before
> > posting. If there
> > > is a lot of output, you can use pastebin.com
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> > > spamming the list.
> > > >
> > > > To check for this, do a search for each of the
> "duplicate"
> > > nsUniqueID
> > > > values using a search filter like this:
> > > > (|(nsuniqueid=value1)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
> > > > and
> > > > (|(nsuniqueid=value2)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The first filter returns nothing (implying that there are no
> > > entries
> > > > in the directory with objectclass=nsTombstone).
> > > Replication update procedures may create tombstones. Those
> > entries do
> > > not show up unless you specify that filter in your search
> > request. So
> > > if the entry is a tombstone, and you did a search for
> > > (nsuniqueid=value)
> > > the entry would not be returned unless you added
> > > |(objectclass=nsTombstone) to the search filter.
> > > > The second filter returns the entry in question. That
> > seems to be
> > > > what one would normally expect if there hadn't been a
> > change in the
> > > > nsuniqueid, correct?
> > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, does your sync app do something
> > like this:
> > > > > get entry by name e.g . (uid=somename). Store the
> > > > nsUniqueID for
> > > > > the entry.
> > > > > Then later, do the same search (uid=somename)
> > and get the
> > > > nsUniqueID.
> > > > > Compare the nsUniqueID to the one stored
> > previously.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That is nearly exactly how the sync application
> > > works. For any
> > > > entry
> > > > > that the application keeps track of, it keeps a
> > 'lastseen'
> > > LDIF. on
> > > > > the next run of the sync, a search is performed and
> the
> > > LDIFs are
> > > > > compared.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this is the case, is it possible that the uid
> > for the
> > > > entry has
> > > > > changed?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No, the only change made to the entry in question was
> to
> > > the 'mail'
> > > > > attribute.
> > > > >
> > > > > > --BO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <
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> > > > > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can someone tell me, does the NSUniqueID
> > > attribute ever
> > > > > change for a
> > > > > > > given entry in the directory?
> > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > If so (I've seen it happen),
> > > > > > Can you describe exactly what you saw and
> > how to
> > > > reproduce it?
> > > > > > > what are the criteria that prompt
> > NSUniqeID to
> > > change?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > BO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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