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Re: Wireless Guide / NTFS Guide / New writing


+0.75:  Several people have raised the point on the f-a-b list that the
upstream kernel has included an NTFS driver for a LONG time, and since
the OIN protects the kernel, there should be no prohibition against
Fedora shipping at least a read-only NTFS kernel module.  If we can
resolve that issue successfully, an NTFS guide which restricts itself to
that protected part of the problem space (i.e. the portion solved by an
included kernel module) would be a useful and good thing.

Paul W. Frields, RHCE                          http://paul.frields.org/
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I am for such a thing. Also can i ask for some verification, as as far as i know, fedora dfoes ship with supports for some wireless NIC's and ndiswrapper is an open source program. In fact can i ask for clarification on the definition of wireless ebing restricted and prohibited.

The usage of ndiswrapper is to allow proprietry software to intergrate into the kernel, but this seems not to be an issue in other distros and in fact fedora ships with support for some Intel wireless cards already. Surely for the sake of fedora this type of distinction (of wireless being forbidden) is rediculous. After all it is an open source solution, using open source materials, to allow the open surce communtiy to have legal access to the drivers they already paid for once they purchased the wireless NIC.

I cannot see how a guide on the usage of ndiswrapper (which is open source) cannot be achieved, so long as the guide doesnt explicitly promote the proprietry software. After all isnt this the point?? To intergrate the open source to merge the experience into one community solution?? Wireless is still a massive problem for Linux users, but i have guides for both SUSE 9.x/10.x and FC5.

Please can i have clarification as to the reasons that ndiswrapper cannot be used in the fedora etras repo, and why the use of ndiswrapper contradicts the policy of fedora-docs on the use of proprietry means. I read the policy as meaning that you cannot use nVidia, as they make it, but ndiswrapper is a middle man, and is open source. We (linux community) have used the same workarounds to get Logitech keybaords, HP devices, most printers, laptops, speakers, sound cards, and other methods. The user need not support proprietry means, because by using the open source ndiswrapper, they are surely curcumventing the need to be protected by the policy on forbidding proprietry terms.

I can see the huge gap caused by the lack of clarification from fedora on the use of such means like wireless, and also NTFS. The confusion is unwarrented surely. Cant there be a solution where the NTFS modules can be brought into fedora extras, and a guide be used accordingly. FAT32 is supported, and other forms and file systems, so why not NTFS, which has had a long history with fedora and is clearly completly open source.

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