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Re: [fedora-java] FOP, gcj, classpath, oh my!

On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 19:21 +1000, Cameron McCormack wrote:
> Hi people.

Hi Cameron:

I'm going to leave your reply intact below, just dropping a note that I
sent a separate message to fedora-docs-list summarizing the thread so
far and calling attention to what we can do to help.

Of the tools-herders, some are busy with test3 packaging, but we
certainly must have some people with documents they want to test (into

I'll keep both lists informed, for now.  Thanks,


> Karsten Wade:
> > > > Can someone give fedora-docs-list an update about our ability to put out
> > > > a 100% free, gcj-compiled DocBook toolchain?
> Thomas Fitzsimmons:
> > > I've been meaning to test this against Rawhide but haven't got to it yet.  When 
> > > I do, I'll report the status here.  (I have a feeling there will have been 
> > > improvements because of the Java2D work in GNU Classpath).
> Mark Wielaard:
> > Yes, I have CCed Cameron and Francis who might have the most up to date
> > status on all this. If we have a good description of what really must
> > work then we can concentrate on those parts of gcj, classpath, batik and
> > fop that are essential to the documentation team.
> > 
> > I installed FC6test3, but cannot find the fop package that Tom created
> > (or did I only dream that he did? maybe it was never submitted?). We
> > might need to import/backport some recent classpath CVS fixes into the
> > FC6 libgcj to make it all work since I know just days ago some new
> > support for batik went into GNU Classpath (hi Francis, hi Cameron).
> Yes, I’ve just last week started to try to identify what Classpath
> problems are preventing Batik from working.  Since the Fedora people will
> (presumably) only be interested in rasterising static SVG documents,
> this should avoid having to deal with any Swing issues just yet.
> We are collecting the issues regarding FOP and Batik here:
>   http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics/GnuClasspathCompatibility
> One thing I have noticed during my limited testing so far is that the
> rasteriser (and the SVG browser, too) is running pretty slowly compared
> to on Sun’s JVM.  My first guess would be a mismatch of ColorModels
> between what Batik is providing and what the Cairo layer underneath is
> exepcting (which was a problem for Batik running under Sun’s OSX JVM a
> while ago), but I haven’t checked into this yet.
> Some simple files work, others don’t.  I really have to do some more
> testing before knowing which areas need to be looked at.  I will report
> back (and update the wiki page above) when I have found out more.
> If the Fedora documentation people want to provide examples of the kinds
> of things they will be processing, that would help to prioritise the
> work.
> I am not sure about the state of FOP running with Classpath.  Jeremias
> Märki (CC’d) should know more.
> Thanks,
> Cameron
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