The instructions to join this group are old and out of date. I have spent enough time trying to get the gpg and ssh things right but your web page says it is all wrong! I have spent 4 days on this and that is too much. I quit. -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. GPG DF28 8F18 94F8 D5C6 9E44 163F 7FD1 3D06 C325 DA40