[Fwd: Election Results]

Gavin Henry ghenry at suretecsystems.com
Thu Mar 1 08:51:45 UTC 2007


<quote who="Paul W. Frields">
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 04:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Gavin Henry wrote:
>> > <quote who="John Babich">
>> >>>
>> >> I'm looking forward to them, especially the one on OpenLDAP.
>> >> Will that doc also address Fedora Directory Server?
>>
>> We can find documentation from the FDS wiki.
>
> Actually, there is very little documentation on the FDS wiki itself
> other than a (good) FAQ, feature list, and standard developer
> information.  The majority of the "good" documentation is the Red Hat
> Directory Server Documentation, which does not offer very good practical
> hands-on information that puts it in reach of the majority of Fedora
> users.  (It is *very* helpful for enterprise administrators, but they
> are less likely to use Fedora solutions for long-term support scenarios
> for good reasons.)  Not to mention that none of these Red Hat documents
> are licensed in a compatible way content-wise.

Agreed.

>
>> > We don't know anything about FDS, and don't really want to ;-)
>> OpenLDAP is
>> > far superior.
>>
>> I dont know anything about A but B is definitely better. Amusing. Isn't
>> it?
>
> Actually, this *is* an interesting perspective of many users (of
> anything, as a matter of fact), that tends to take root when the vendor
> or offering entity doesn't have any clear hooks on which they can "sell"
> a product.  This has been written about in a bunch of places, but I
> think most recently I've seen it come up tangentially on the "Creating
> Passionate Users" blog, which everyone around here should probably check
> out -- if only for a couple of priceless articles on good user manuals.
>
> FDS may or may not be fantastic, but it is poorly "marketed" and for
> darn sure it doesn't get talked about much.  Quite a lot of that may be
> due to the fact that the folks working on it are very busy trying to
> make it better and don't have time to do that important user outreach.
> Fedora does a pretty good job project-wide on the whole, but even we can
> have problems from time to time getting our important messages out.  And
> FDS is a weird subproject that hasn't received a lot of love from the
> community, and has been more of a "throw it over the wall" contribution,
> albeit a really cool one.
>
> I think this is a user perspective that we can actually learn from.
> Every opinion is a chance to learn how we can improve outreach.  Well,
> *almost* every opinion. :-)

Agreed.

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