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Re: Fedora howtos ?



On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 10:29 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2008 7:59 AM, Vladimir Kosovac <vnk mkc co nz> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, Eric H Christensen <eric christensenplace us> wrote:
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> > >> Valent,
> > >> Not sure exactly what Howto you are looking for but there are documents at http://docs.fedoraproject.org and on the Fedora Project Wiki.
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >
> > > I'm asking if there are answers to most common questions, I see the
> > > FAQ but those are the most basic Q&A and I see lots of questions
> > > poping up on mailinlists and forums that don't have answers.
> > >
> > > Like this one:
> > > "How can I setup samba to work (mount & unmount on bootup and
> > > shutdown) in Fedora 8 (there are SELinux and NetworManager issues)."
> > >
> > Valent, I recently wrote samba paper as a section of the draft
> > Administration Guide. You can find it here:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/SambaServer
> >
> > It's paragraph 5.5. Guide is set for release with the release of Fedora
> > 9, which should give it more visibility.
> 
> Thanks for the link it is great, but I was actually thinking (and
> didn't write it) about samba client issues I found in Fedora 8.
> I'm not a real admin so I'm probably doing something wrong, but here
> is my experience.
> I setup samba mount points in /etc/fstab and if I enable netfs service
> to start in runlevel 3 that it fails becase network is up only when
> you log in  and gnome starts NetworkManager. There are ways of putting
> scripts in NetworkDispatch folder so that when NEtworkManager starts
> netfs service starts and mounts samba shares but this fails on
> shutdown becasuse network goes down before samba shares are unmounted.
> 
> > I don't use Network Manager and am not aware of the issues samba client
> > might have with it. SElinux requirements are explained in the same paper.
> >
> > > I know that there are lots of knowledgeable fedora users and devels
> > > that can answer these and similar questions but new users need to know
> > > where to look for them. Can something be done so that somewhere these
> > > howto Q&A are accesible easily to new users - maybe some wiki page?
> > >
> > There is nothing standing in a way of someone who wants to take the
> > ownership of any new useful documentation, including FAQ. We are a bit
> > short-handed at the moment though - would you be interested in joining
> > the docs project, perhaps and start on this one? I'm happy to help as
> > much as I can, more once AdminGuide work is completed.
> 
> I'm willing to help work on HowTos wiki page, but I'm new to wiki
> editing so somebody should probably instead of me lay the foundation
> of the wiki page - the paragraphs, sections (networking, desktop,
> multimedia... etc...) and I'll start working on it after that of if
> you have some other way how it is done and how I can contribute just
> say how.
> 
> Cheers,
> Valent.
> 
> > Cheers, Vladimir
> >
> > > Valent.
> > >

Only way around that is to start using the internal/console network and
not network manager.  

I would say that it is a bug but it isn't really.  Network Manager will
start when you start gnome/kde where as fstab starts a lot earlier.

e.g. service network restart
ifup eth0
chkconfig network on
chkconfig NetworkManager off

This is one issue with Network Manager.

Cheers,

Marc


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