Fedora howtos ?

Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 11:34:11 UTC 2008


On Feb 1, 2008 11:34 AM, Marc Wiriadisastra <marc at mwiriadi.id.au> wrote:
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>
> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 10:29 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 2008 7:59 AM, Vladimir Kosovac <vnk at mkc.co.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, Eric H Christensen <eric at christensenplace.us> wrote:
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> > > >> Valent,
> > > >> Not sure exactly what Howto you are looking for but there are documents at http://docs.fedoraproject.org and on the Fedora Project Wiki.
> > > >>
> > > >> Eric
> > > >
> > > > I'm asking if there are answers to most common questions, I see the
> > > > FAQ but those are the most basic Q&A and I see lots of questions
> > > > poping up on mailinlists and forums that don't have answers.
> > > >
> > > > Like this one:
> > > > "How can I setup samba to work (mount & unmount on bootup and
> > > > shutdown) in Fedora 8 (there are SELinux and NetworManager issues)."
> > > >
> > > Valent, I recently wrote samba paper as a section of the draft
> > > Administration Guide. You can find it here:
> > >
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/SambaServer
> > >
> > > It's paragraph 5.5. Guide is set for release with the release of Fedora
> > > 9, which should give it more visibility.
> >
> > Thanks for the link it is great, but I was actually thinking (and
> > didn't write it) about samba client issues I found in Fedora 8.
> > I'm not a real admin so I'm probably doing something wrong, but here
> > is my experience.
> > I setup samba mount points in /etc/fstab and if I enable netfs service
> > to start in runlevel 3 that it fails becase network is up only when
> > you log in  and gnome starts NetworkManager. There are ways of putting
> > scripts in NetworkDispatch folder so that when NEtworkManager starts
> > netfs service starts and mounts samba shares but this fails on
> > shutdown becasuse network goes down before samba shares are unmounted.
> >
> > > I don't use Network Manager and am not aware of the issues samba client
> > > might have with it. SElinux requirements are explained in the same paper.
> > >
> > > > I know that there are lots of knowledgeable fedora users and devels
> > > > that can answer these and similar questions but new users need to know
> > > > where to look for them. Can something be done so that somewhere these
> > > > howto Q&A are accesible easily to new users - maybe some wiki page?
> > > >
> > > There is nothing standing in a way of someone who wants to take the
> > > ownership of any new useful documentation, including FAQ. We are a bit
> > > short-handed at the moment though - would you be interested in joining
> > > the docs project, perhaps and start on this one? I'm happy to help as
> > > much as I can, more once AdminGuide work is completed.
> >
> > I'm willing to help work on HowTos wiki page, but I'm new to wiki
> > editing so somebody should probably instead of me lay the foundation
> > of the wiki page - the paragraphs, sections (networking, desktop,
> > multimedia... etc...) and I'll start working on it after that of if
> > you have some other way how it is done and how I can contribute just
> > say how.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Valent.
> >
> > > Cheers, Vladimir
> > >
> > > > Valent.
> > > >
>
> Only way around that is to start using the internal/console network and
> not network manager.
>
> I would say that it is a bug but it isn't really.  Network Manager will
> start when you start gnome/kde where as fstab starts a lot earlier.
>
> e.g. service network restart
> ifup eth0
> chkconfig network on
> chkconfig NetworkManager off
>
> This is one issue with Network Manager.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc

And then I loose all the wireless magic that I can't do without on my laptop :(

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