FDSCo Meeting 2008-02-27 IRC log

Vladimir Kosovac vnk at mkc.co.nz
Thu Feb 28 19:22:51 UTC 2008


Hi all.

Re AG update - I've been out of any action on AGBeta for the last few 
weeks, due to work related travel. And lots of work.

Missed the March deadline for XML conversion but will do more over the 
coming weekend. There isn't much left but since I'm the only one writing 
this stuff, might not be complete for another week or two.

Cheers, Vladimir

John Babich wrote:
> Feb 27 22:13:58 <jmbuser>	<meeting>
> Feb 27 22:14:19 <jmbuser>	Welcome to the Fedora Docs Meeting
> Feb 27 22:14:26 <jmbuser>	Roll Call
> Feb 27 22:14:30 <jmbuser>	John Babich
> Feb 27 22:15:00 <couf>	Bart Couvreur
> Feb 27 22:15:22 <glezos>	Dimitris Glezos
> Feb 27 22:16:38 <glezos>	stickster, quaid, BobJensen: ping
> Feb 27 22:17:11 <jmbuser>	quaid gave his apology earlier - he's not
> feeling well...
> Feb 27 22:17:32 <jmbuser>	stickster may join us later...he has a meeting
> Feb 27 22:17:54 *	jsmith (n=jsmith at 72.21.36.138) has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:17:58 <jmbuser>	BobJensen's taking care of family business...
> Feb 27 22:18:10 <jmbuser>	jsmith: ping
> Feb 27 22:18:34 *	jsmith is here
> Feb 27 22:18:54 <jmbuser>	OK, please see the agenda at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
> Feb 27 22:19:42 <jmbuser>	Item #1: Any update on one-page summary?
> Feb 27 22:20:19 *	mdomsch has quit ("Leaving")
> Feb 27 22:20:22 <couf>	JonRob asked about it on the marketing-list
> Feb 27 22:21:14 <couf>	will be a part of the markteting meeting this week, afaik
> Feb 27 22:22:42 <jmbuser>	couf: I can't find the reference, but I'll
> take your word on it
> Feb 27 22:23:26 <couf>	ow, hang on
> Feb 27 22:23:43
> <couf>	https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-February/msg00433.html
> Feb 27 22:23:53 <jmbuser>	couf: thanks
> Feb 27 22:24:33 *	JSchmitt (n=s4504kr at p54B113A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
> has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:24:44 <couf>	I'm in favor of letting marketing do the first
> write-ups and we go in after to do some wordsmithing etc
> Feb 27 22:25:27 <jmbuser>	+1
> Feb 27 22:25:57 <jmbuser>	Any other comments on item #1?
> Feb 27 22:26:17 <EvilBob>	Hey I am Here
> Feb 27 22:26:31 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: welcome
> Feb 27 22:27:01 <jmbuser>	OK, how about item #2 - update on active
> content - Release notes?
> Feb 27 22:27:48 *	JSchmitt has quit (Client Quit)
> Feb 27 22:27:52 <jmbuser>	Ties in with beta freeze, I would imagine
> Feb 27 22:28:12 *	stickster is now known as stickster_afk
> Feb 27 22:28:34 <jmbuser>	So, moving on...DUG / AG / SMG
> Feb 27 22:29:06 <EvilBob>	IG: I have no updates this week, I have been
> learning emacs and vi trying to find an editor before I start digging
> in
> Feb 27 22:29:31 *	wolfy (n=lonewolf at fedora/wolfy) has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:29:32 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: OK
> Feb 27 22:29:52 <couf>	same here: no updates
> Feb 27 22:30:31 <jmbuser>	DUG: No update - I'm ready to attempt
> Publican to do some DocBook conversion, after some editing
> Feb 27 22:31:00 <jmbuser>	OK, crypto?
> Feb 27 22:31:34 <jsmith>	Last I heard on crypto, Sparks was still
> working on it in the wiki
> Feb 27 22:31:43 *	cdehaan
> (n=Cody at urwireless-dhcp-128-151-25-111.wireless.rochester.edu) has
> joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:31:54 <jsmith>	jmbuser: I'm happy to help with DocBook
> conversion on DUG, fwiw
> Feb 27 22:32:39 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Thanks, as long as I can take part
> in it, because I need to improve my skills at DocBook
> Feb 27 22:33:06 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Absolutely!  I'll just play the role
> as mentor, answering questions as you get stuck
> Feb 27 22:33:23 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Thanks
> Feb 27 22:33:37 *	fabian_a (n=fabian at 84-75-160-95.dclient.hispeed.ch)
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> Feb 27 22:33:38 <jmbuser>	Moving on - ConsoleKit/PolicyKit inclusion beat
> Feb 27 22:34:35 <EvilBob>	To do this week, BobJensen needs to get an
> email out for Beats content
> Feb 27 22:35:40 <jmbuser>	I saw some blogging on it
> Feb 27 22:35:59 *	cdehaan has quit (Client Quit)
> Feb 27 22:36:04 <EvilBob>	Yeah I am going to start blogging this week
> Feb 27 22:36:48 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: excellent
> Feb 27 22:37:24 <jmbuser>	Set Chair/Leader - should we tackle this now
> or wait on it?
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> Feb 27 22:37:52 <EvilBob>	vice chair
> Feb 27 22:37:55 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Before we jump to that, can we mention SMG?
> Feb 27 22:38:01 *	smooge (n=smooge at canopus.unm.edu) has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:38:03 <EvilBob>	jsmith: yes
> Feb 27 22:38:12 <jmbuser>	jsmith:  +1
> Feb 27 22:38:19 <jsmith>	I'm still waiting on feedback on the SMG
> transition from Wiki to CVS
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> Feb 27 22:38:35 *	DanseMakabre (i=pat at bobo.ds5.agh.edu.pl) has joined
> #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:38:43 <jsmith>	(technically, it should be in good shape...
> it could use some wordsmithing in a few places, but the docbook should
> be pretty solid)
> Feb 27 22:39:06 <jsmith>	I was hoping to get some of the more
> experienced members of the team to make sure I haven't totally screwed
> up
> Feb 27 22:39:18 *	jsmith is still new here, and doesn't want to assume
> he's doing it right
> Feb 27 22:39:28 <jmbuser>	jsmith: I can review it for typos, style,
> etc. if you like
> Feb 27 22:40:00 <jsmith>	jmbuser: OK, that would be great.
> Feb 27 22:40:12 <jsmith>	I'll try to get quaid or stickster to review
> the DocBook
> Feb 27 22:40:20 <jsmith>	That's all I had ;-)
> Feb 27 22:40:45 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Are you familiar with the CVS procedures?
> Feb 27 22:40:48 *	wolfy (n=lonewolf at fedora/wolfy) has left
> #fedora-meeting ("It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the
> sudden stop at the end.")
> Feb 27 22:42:38 *	cdehaan
> (n=Cody at urwireless-dhcp-128-151-25-111.wireless.rochester.edu) has
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> Feb 27 22:42:38 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Yes
> Feb 27 22:42:48 <jmbuser>	jsmith: good
> Feb 27 22:42:55 <jsmith>	jmbuser: I've already done the conversion to
> DocBook and checked the changes into CVS
> Feb 27 22:43:05 <jsmith>	jmbuser: (in the yum-management-guide module)
> Feb 27 22:43:15 <jmbuser>	jsmith: good++
> Feb 27 22:43:34 <jsmith>	What I'm not super-familiar with is the tool chain
> Feb 27 22:43:50 <jsmith>	(and nuances of various DocBook tags and how
> you guys use them)
> Feb 27 22:44:04 <jsmith>	But yes, I'm very familiar with CVS and
> DocBook in general
> Feb 27 22:44:39 <EvilBob>	Leadership?
> Feb 27 22:44:43 *	cdehaan has quit (Client Quit)
> Feb 27 22:44:55 <jmbuser>	jmbuser: I'm not an expert, but I'm a little
> familiar with the tags  - po files are another story
> Feb 27 22:45:08 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: Since you mentioned it...
> Feb 27 22:45:09 <EvilBob>	Do we have enough here for quorum?
> Feb 27 22:45:30 <jmbuser>	Let's see - roll call time again
> Feb 27 22:45:36 <jmbuser>	John babich
> Feb 27 22:45:45 <EvilBob>	couf glezos jmbuser BobJensen jsmith
> Feb 27 22:45:53 *	cebbert (n=cebbert at nat/redhat/x-5f0c21f2d3bf45b4)
> has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:45:58 <jsmith>	Jared Smith
> Feb 27 22:46:00 <EvilBob>	that should be 5 enough for a confirmation
> Feb 27 22:46:03 <EvilBob>	Bob Jensen
> Feb 27 22:46:33 <EvilBob>	did we lose glezos and couf
> Feb 27 22:46:49 <jmbuser>	glezos: ping
> Feb 27 22:46:51 <glezos>	EvilBob: I'm here
> Feb 27 22:46:57 <jmbuser>	couf: ping
> Feb 27 22:47:00 <glezos>	+1 for converting
> Feb 27 22:47:20 <couf>	pong, wifi dropped a bit
> Feb 27 22:48:05 <jmbuser>	It looks like a quorum...
> Feb 27 22:48:11 <EvilBob>	I would like to motion for a vote confirming
> jmbuser as our new Vice Chair/Future leader
> Feb 27 22:48:21 *	smooge (n=smooge at canopus.unm.edu) has joined #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:48:57 <jsmith>	I second the motion
> Feb 27 22:49:12 <couf>	+1
> Feb 27 22:49:41 <EvilBob>	All those in favor of John Babich leading
> the prject in the future please respond with a +1
> Feb 27 22:49:44 *	JSchmitt (n=s4504kr at fedora/JSchmitt) has joined
> #fedora-meeting
> Feb 27 22:49:45 <EvilBob>	+1
> Feb 27 22:49:49 <couf>	+1
> Feb 27 22:49:52 <jmbuser>	(abstains)
> Feb 27 22:49:55 <glezos>	um
> Feb 27 22:50:01 <glezos>	what does "in the future" mean? :)
> Feb 27 22:50:18 <EvilBob>	glezos: 6 onths as vice chair, learning the ropes
> Feb 27 22:50:37 <EvilBob>	glezos: then a 1 year term as chair
> Feb 27 22:50:52 <EvilBob>	glezos: the last 6 months training the next chair
> Feb 27 22:51:09 <glezos>	EvilBob: maybe we might want to have quaid
> and stickster around for such a vote?
> Feb 27 22:51:18 <jmbuser>	I think it should clear that assumes
> continued involvement and re-election
> Feb 27 22:51:21 <EvilBob>	glezos: they are in agreement
> Feb 27 22:51:33 <glezos>	FWIW, I think it's great to have jmbuser for VC :)
> Feb 27 22:52:03 <jmbuser>	If I really screw up, you can kick me out :-)
> Feb 27 22:52:04 <glezos>	+1 then
> Feb 27 22:52:28 <EvilBob>	jsmith: do you care to vote?
> Feb 27 22:52:45 <jsmith>	Obviously, since I seconded the motion
> Feb 27 22:52:47 <jsmith>	+1
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> Feb 27 22:53:08 <EvilBob>	we have the required 4 + votes to confirm
> Feb 27 22:53:20 <EvilBob>	jmbuser: Congrats
> Feb 27 22:53:47 <glezos>	jmbuser: I'm sure you'll do well, the work
> you've done so far is fantastic
> Feb 27 22:53:54 *	jsmith pats jmbuser on the back
> Feb 27 22:54:07 <couf>	congrats jmbuser
> Feb 27 22:54:31 <jmbuser>	Thanks - I really appreciate the confidence
> you guys have in me - I hope to continue to live up to it
> Feb 27 22:54:54 <jmbuser>	It's always a team effort
> Feb 27 22:55:02 <EvilBob>	I have to bug out at this point, Mom is
> getting annoyed
> Feb 27 22:55:10 <jsmith>	Thanks EvilBob
> Feb 27 22:55:26 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: see you later, thanks
> Feb 27 22:57:29 <jmbuser>	Referring back to the agenda,  any more
> thoughts on Publican?
> Feb 27 22:57:55 <jsmith>	I'm still happy to show people how to get
> started, but I'm still just scratching the surface
> Feb 27 22:58:05 <jsmith>	I've done three or four different docs in it now
> Feb 27 22:58:16 <jsmith>	and even figured out how to get PDFs out of it (mostly)
> Feb 27 22:58:24 <glezos>	jmbuser: good job
> Feb 27 22:59:22 <jmbuser>	glezos: thanks
> Feb 27 22:59:35 <jmbuser>	jsmith: I saw you were quoted in the Red Hat
> Magazine article...
> Feb 27 23:00:32 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Yeah... stickster has been dropping
> my name again, like I'm some sort of rock star
> Feb 27 23:00:37 *	jsmith isn't all that and a bag of chips
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> Feb 27 23:02:19 <jmbuser>	glezos: How about Publican - Does it fit in
> well with Transiifex?
> Feb 27 23:03:00 <jmbuser>	s / Transiifex / Transifex /
> Feb 27 23:03:02 *	schlobinux_
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> Feb 27 23:04:56 <jmbuser>	If nothing else, any other business before we close?
> Feb 27 23:05:26 <couf>	not from me
> Feb 27 23:06:14 <jmbuser>	OK, the countdown begins...
> Feb 27 23:06:18 <jmbuser>	10
> Feb 27 23:06:39 <jmbuser>	9
> Feb 27 23:06:41 <jmbuser>	8
> Feb 27 23:06:46 <jmbuser>	7
> Feb 27 23:06:51 <jmbuser>	6
> Feb 27 23:06:57 <jmbuser>	5
> Feb 27 23:07:01 <jmbuser>	4
> Feb 27 23:07:05 <jmbuser>	III
> Feb 27 23:07:08 <jmbuser>	II
> Feb 27 23:07:33 <jmbuser>	I
> Feb 27 23:07:47 <jsmith>	0
> Feb 27 23:07:47 <jmbuser>	</meeting>
> 

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