FDSCo Meeting 2008-03-12 IRC Log

[Robert 'Bob' Jensen]

John Babich wrote:
> *	quaid has changed the topic to: FDSCo mtg -- Mailing list spam and moderation
> *	stickster here
> <quaid>	hmm, without Bob I don't think we get the full impatc
> <quaid>	but aiui
> <quaid>	he was concerned with list moderators stepping on each other
> <quaid>	outside of designating hours of coverage (horrors!)
> <quaid>	I think we just have to be careful
> <quaid>	and make sure we know what we are rejecting
> <quaid>	for this I use the Mailman WebUI to be sure
> <jmbuser>	quaid: Is there any way to prevent the spam mail from
> cloggin up my webmail?
> <jmbuser>	s / cloggin / clogging /
> <quaid>	filters?
> <quaid>	also ...
> <quaid>	Mike was going to adjust our filters
> <quaid>	but afaict he hasn't
> <quaid>	I don't know quite what to do there and haven't found anyone
> who can help
> *	quaid tries not to say M I K E ' s name so as to not distract him
> from FAS2 fun
> <jmbuser>	The signal-to-noise ratio drops drastically with spam and
> causes me to miss real information
> <quaid>	hmm
> <quaid>	I'm not sure if the spam filters drop the message before it
> gets to the queue
> <quaid>	I'll drop mike an  email about the filters
> <jmbuser>	thanks
> <quaid>	ok, that's about what we can do
> <quaid>	jmbuser: are you using the web interface for moderating?  or
> still using the reply-to in the email stuff?
> <stickster>	Hm, I haven't seen any spam on f-docs-l.
> <jmbuser>	quaid: web interface
> <stickster>	Maybe it's my Gmail at work?
> <quaid>	stickster: it doesn't land on list, it hits the moderation queue
> <stickster>	Oh that.
> *	mkranz (n=mkranz at h-217.111.50.179.host.de.colt.net) has joined #fedora-meeting
> <quaid>	so it's moderator email that you see
> <quaid>	ok, anything else here?
> <stickster>	*AH*.  I've been getting a BOATLOAD of that on f-a-b and
> f-board-l that I do have to moderate, so fair enough.
> <quaid>	stickster: mike figured out a formula for using RHT set spam
> assassin headers
> <stickster>	quaid: I've been considering simply rejecting email from
> non-subscribers, at least on f-board-l.
> <quaid>	I just sent him email, once I get the details, i'll publish
> and advertise to list admins
> <quaid>	stickster: then you lose the people who we ask to reply to the board
> <stickster>	s/non-subscribers/non-subscribers who aren't preapproved/
> <quaid>	aiui, the SA headers are present and can be used by Mailman
> <stickster>	Aha
> <stickster>	OK, not to drive this into the ground, sorry all.
> <quaid>	I just want to avoid re-doing Mike's figuring here, so I'll
> see what he says, then try it on f-docs-l ...etc.
> <quaid>	ok, moving on ...
> <stickster>	If it works, let me know and I'll follow suit
> *	quaid looks back up 9 lines in his buffer
> <quaid>	yep

Sorry I missed the meeting, one thing that I have been doing with the 
spammers is checking the box to "always reject from this address." this 
will help over time I think. this is what the "rejected" messages are 
from. I think we can turn those off in mailman.

-- 
73,

Robert 'Bob' Jensen
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