IRC log FDSCo meeting 12-SEP-2006

Wed Sep 13 00:11:59 UTC 2006

<quaid> <meeting>
<megacoder> Just when you thought it was safe to go into the chat
room...
<quaid>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule
<quaid> howdy, homechildren
<stickster> yowza
<megacoder> hiya, pop
<quaid> all right, AOB we want to tackle first whilst all are here?
<megacoder> Thanks to all for rescheduling for me; I've not liked being
away.
<EvilBob> we have liked it even less
<quaid> :)
<stickster> quaid: Most of my time is being spent on polishing f-r-n for
test3
<quaid> anything to note for FIG/
<quaid> ?
<stickster> Absolutely no feedback from the anacondans to date
<stickster> So I assume they think it's the greatest thing since sliced
bread, of course
<quaid> ok
<stickster> I will try and have it out w/in 24 hours of test3 ISO
availability
<quaid> and how is that looking?  
<quaid> that is, I've been stalling
<quaid> on the DUG
<stickster> I made a huge mistake with sending aalam the wrong POT, but
he has reimported it
<quaid> and want to know if we have a new formal target
<stickster> Umm... I didn't set one :-D
<quaid> I think this is a question for f13
<stickster> I think the spin was going to be Thursday
<stickster> They are trying to shake out some last minute problems
<quaid> a new idea:
<quaid> keep the DUG in Docs/Drafts/, take my time to work on the
editing/writing more v. wrangling the XML, and push that to the world as
a public beta that works
<quaid> keeping it in the wiki increases the chances 10x that another
writer will get frustrated or interested enough to fix it up
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<stickster> I think that's probably a good answer
<stickster> megacoder: When you get a chance... can you help me with a
specific Makefile problem?
<megacoder> stickster, ok
<megacoder> stickster, now is goot
<stickster> quaid: I'll take this private
<megacoder> stickster, now ist goot
<quaid> stickster: on packaging, the new splash page is post-test3,
right?
<quaid> and doesn't it have to be index.html?
<stickster> Yes on both counts
<stickster> I'm a little leery of the Javascript idea
<megacoder> What javascript idea?
<stickster> Q.v. the list... an idea from Dimitris
<quaid> and we're not going to translate that page? or we are?
<stickster> A way of showing the proper language's
RELEASE-NOTES-${LANG}.html page in Firefox default
<quaid> that is, XMLize it?
<stickster> We can, but that doesn't help the browser figure out which
one to show on the local file system, since Apache isn't carrying the
load of making that happen
<quaid> I think it was also proper index-${LANG}.html, too
<quaid> right
<quaid> I think we should go with the other idea
<quaid> write it in English and have links in other languages to the
other language splash pages
<stickster> qYes on the index-${LANG}.html
<quaid> index.html is en_US by default, etc.
<quaid> and do the -$LANG
<megacoder> stickster, isn't the proper language setting available
inside the browser somehow?
<stickster> Yes, but it has to be either picked up by a script or the
server
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<EvilBob> but something need to get that info from the browser and serve
the content
<stickster> EvilBob: 'Zactly
<EvilBob> we are dealing with static content
<stickster> When we have Plone this will enable us to do cool things!
<stickster> Yeah, on a file:/// URL
<megacoder> I'm thinking of an Xinclude trick that might work.  A simple
xml wrapper file with its own CSS file that uses the locale to auto-load
the proper doc.  Does the installer browser have enough foo?
<EvilBob> could always enable the httpd server in the kernel and have it
serve the pages...NOT
<stickster> :-D
<stickster> megacoder: Nope
<quaid> this is not for installer broswer
<quaid> it's for Firefox
<stickster> Or whatever the default browser is post-(install|upgrade)
<megacoder> Hm.  I'll fiddle offline and report back.
<quaid> hmm, yeah
<quaid> I see that I have an open request to update the schedule for
translation; do we think we're going to get translations in?
<stickster> The crazier this gets, the more I think we should be looking
at post-FC6 for it
<stickster> for.... what? relnotes?
<quaid> no no, stop it
<quaid> take minimal over nothing
<quaid> :)
<quaid> not relnotes, the splash page
<stickster> OK
<stickster> Ah
<stickster> The file will be part of fedora-release-notes, so we should
set this up for release to translators the normal number of days ahead
of the projected final release
<quaid> ok
<stickster> (and I'll make sure the POT is updated!)
<stickster> At worst, we will have a static single index.html with links
to every provided language.
<quaid> ok
<quaid> has final release been bumped up a week, too?
<stickster> *That's* definitely a f13 question :-)
<stickster> My bet is, yes
<quaid> I guess I'll have to update the schedule ... somehow
<EvilBob> right after the T3 release I will have some time to help out,
I have an obligation to get T3 Live media out for the Kadischi guys, so
hopefully I can help out
<stickster> quaid: I'll be on this eveningish, I'll wait for f13 to show
up and try to pounce on him to get the skinny on the prospective release
schedule
<stickster> Aw crap
* stickster has ugly Makefile error on Rawhide for f-r-n
<quaid> ok, i've got to hop off and get the jet
<stickster> OK, let's call it a wrap
<quaid> ok, good by me
<megacoder> Happy flying
<stickster> I'm gonna kibitz with MC MegaCoder for some Make-fu
<quaid> stuff updated, irc log on the way
<quaid> </meeting>
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