Future FESCo Elections

[Michael Schwendt]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:26:21 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

> > Why don't you come up with explanations on how FESCo works and what we
> > need FESCo for?
> 
> Why don't you come up with explanations? You were in FESCo for long, you
> know Fedora Extras in deep and how things work.

Simply because I haven't found out the answers to the questions. ;)

Maybe if I had hung out on IRC for a long time, maybe then I would have
collected better information on "who does what?" and other questions
everybody in FESCo should be interested in.

A few more examples:

"Kicking" build servers: It has never been clear to me who besides Dan
Williams (dcbw) has special access to the build server master and clients
and where reporting about temporary problems would be preferred.

Recently, OTRS has been mentioned multiple times (and even suggested by a
FESCo/FPB member) without information on who exactly can be reached
there. Why do we need to guess? Why the confusion?

Somebody at fedora.us once wrote something like "I felt like a 5 year old
boy at X-mas when I read that -- when has that been decided?", referring
to lack of communication between decision makers and contributors. And
indeed, I am reminded of that whenever I see something relevant and think
"why hasn't this been announced anywhere?" and "am I expected to monitor
many more mailing-lists to stay informed about things that affect us?".

Packages dropped from FC: There are package inter-dependencies between
Extras and Core. Still it happens that communication about removal of
packages from Core is sparse or non-existant. Same applies to ABI/API
upgrades. We do have fedora-maintainers list. Post short warnings there,
please.

FE roadmap: FC6 comes nearer. But while on fedora-maintainers list there
are topics about Core mass rebuilds, there is silence (or hard to find
information?) about how/when to bring Extras in shape. The Schedule
page contains a tiny comment, vague plans.

Talking about quorum: Whenever I attended a FESCO meeting on IRC, there
were only half of the members present or less thereof. And whenever I
didn't find the time, there were also only at most half of the members
present.

Apart from such examples, FESCo's mailing list appeared to me like
/dev/null [1] several times as well as /dev/zero (whenever input has come
in from unknown sources - IRC? - and entered the Schedule page without
notice, so at the beginning of a meeting I learned about topics I haven't
seen before). I didn't know whether I was expected to monitor the Wiki
page instead of proper communication on-list.

[1] e.g. "Subject: ExcludeArch for noarch (was: Re: nx requires and provides)"
and if somebody with the proper privileges could visit
"Subject: [PATCH] Re: cvs-import.sh fails to resurrect dead branches"
thanks in advance.