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Re: Broken upgrade paths in FC+FE 2006-09-12



On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:37 -0700, Garrick Staples wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:01:46AM +0530, Rahul alleged:
> > Ville Skytt? wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >By the way, I don't have the impression that packagers are expected to
> > >make sure that upgrades like directly from FC(x) to FC(x+2) without
> > >stopping at FC(x+1) do work in the first place.  Other opinions?
> > >
> > 
> > We definitely need to make sure that works. Many uses skip releases 
> > because they dont want to upgrade so soon and they didnt find any 
> > benefits in the latest release or there are some regressions and things 
> > like that. Upgrade paths to newer releases should always be as smooth as 
> > possible (not just between x and x+2).
> 
> Ditto.  All upgrade paths should work correctly.

Note that I said "upgrades", not "upgrade paths".  There are more things
in the equation when one upgrades from a distro version to a newer one
than just properly increasing per-package EVRs which is what I meant by
"upgrade path" in this context (see the subject and the mail which
started this thread).  Hm, maybe we should use "Package versioning
problems" in the report mails for clarity instead?

Well, nevertheless I tend to agree for some values of "all" and "should"
even in the whole upgrade context, the former in the sense that lines
have to be drawn somewhere (directly from RHL5 to FC6 anyone?) and the
latter in the sense that no upgrades should be gratuitously broken.
Anyway, however it is formulated and wherever the lines are drawn, I
think it deserves to be mentioned in guidelines somewhere.

Oh, and I made some changes to the version checker script, attached is
what the next reports will probably look like.  It now includes only the
problematic paths, but checks versioning against all newer distro
versions instead of only the next one.  Comments?  (Don't pay too much
attention on the actual data, it may not be quite bleeding edge.)
UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package):
    db4
      FC5-updates < FC6 (0:4.3.29-8.fc5 < 0:4.3.29-7.fc6)
    
    device-mapper
      FC4-updates < FC5 (0:1.02.07-2.0 < 0:1.02.02-3.2)
      FC4-updates < FC6 (0:1.02.07-2.0 < 0:1.02.07-1.1)
    
    frysk
      FC5-updates < FC6 (0:0.0.1.2006.09.08.rh1-2.fc5 < 0:0.0.1.2006.08.30.rh1-1.fc6)
    
    ftp
      FC5-updates < FC6 (0:0.17-33.fc5 < 0:0.17-32.1.2.4)
    
    lvm2
      FC4-updates < FC5 (0:2.02.06-1.0.fc4 < 0:2.02.01-1.2.1)
    
    mozilla
      FL3-updates < FC4-updates (37:1.7.13-1.3.1.legacy < 37:1.7.13-1.1.fc4)
      FL3-updates < FC5-updates (37:1.7.13-1.3.1.legacy < 37:1.7.13-1.1.fc5)
    
    quagga
      FC4-updates < FC5-updates (0:0.98.6-1.fc4 < 0:0.98.6-1.FC5)
    
andreas.bierfert AT lowlatency.de:
    dillo
      FE3 < FE5 (0:0.8.6-2.fc3 < 0:0.8.6-1.fc5)
      FE4 < FE5 (0:0.8.6-2.fc4 < 0:0.8.6-1.fc5)
    
    libpqxx
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.6.7-1.fc4 < 0:2.6.6-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.6.7-1.fc5 < 0:2.6.6-1.fc6)
    
candyz0416 AT gmail.com:
    gcin
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.2.5-2.fc5 < 0:1.2.5-1.fc6)
    
cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au:
    geda-docs
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)
    
    geda-examples
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-4.fc6)
    
    geda-gattrib
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)
    
    geda-gnetlist
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)
    
    geda-gschem
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)
    
    geda-gsymcheck
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)
    
    geda-symbols
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)
    
    geda-utils
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)
    
    libgeda
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)
    
chris.stone AT gmail.com:
    pypoker-eval
      FE5 < FE6 (0:132.0-3.fc5 < 0:132.0-2.fc6)
    
chrisw AT redhat.com:
    git
      FE3 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc3 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc4 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)
    
cweyl AT alumni.drew.edu:
    perl-POE-Component-IRC
      FE5 < FE6 (0:5.02-1.fc5 < 0:5.00-1.fc6)
    
    perl-WWW-Myspace
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.56-1.fc5 < 0:0.54-1.fc6)
    
dan AT danny.cz:
    qgit
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.5.1-1.fc4 < 0:1.5-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.5.1-1.fc5 < 0:1.5-1.fc6)
    
    tinyerp
      FE5 < FE6 (0:3.3.0-3.fc5 < 0:3.3.0-2.fc6)
    
foolish AT guezz.net:
    serpentine
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.7-4.fc5 < 0:0.7-3.fc6)
    
gauret AT free.fr:
    amarok
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:1.4.1-3.fc6)
    
gemi AT bluewin.ch:
    abcMIDI
      FE4 < FE6 (0:20060910-1.fc4 < 0:20060829-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:20060910-1.fc5 < 0:20060829-1.fc6)
    
imlinux AT gmail.com:
    sqlite2
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.8.17-1.fc5 < 0:2.8.16-3.fc5)
    
jamatos AT fc.up.pt:
    grace
      FE5 < FE6 (0:5.1.20-2.fc5 < 0:5.1.20-1.fc6)
    
    pyparsing
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.4.3-1.fc4 < 0:1.3-1.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.3-1.fc5 < 0:1.3-1.fc5)
    
jeff AT ultimateevil.org:
    zile
      FE3 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc3 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc4 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc5 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)
    
lemenkov AT gmail.com:
    fuse-sshfs
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.7-1.fc4 < 0:1.6-2.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.7-1.fc5 < 0:1.6-2.fc6)
    
    stratagus
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.1-6.fc4 < 0:2.1-5.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.1-6.fc5 < 0:2.1-5.fc6)
    
meme AT daughtersoftiresias.org:
    fortune-firefly
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.1.1-2.fc5 < 0:2.1.1-1.fc6)
    
mpeters AT mac.com:
    firestarter
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.0.3-11.fc5 < 0:1.0.3-10.fc6)
    
noa AT resare.com:
    vorbisgain
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.34-2.fc5 < 0:0.34-1.fc6)
    
nomis80 AT nomis80.org:
    camstream
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.26.3-10.fc5 < 0:0.26.3-9.fc5)
    
    opencv
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.9.7-16.fc5 < 0:0.9.7-15.fc5)
    
paul AT all-the-johnsons.co.uk:
    monodoc
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.1.17-5.fc5 < 0:1.1.17-4.fc6)
    
paul AT city-fan.org:
    perl-String-CRC32
      FE3 < FC5-updates (0:1.4-1.fc3 < 0:1.4-1.FC5)
      FE4 < FC5-updates (0:1.4-1.fc4 < 0:1.4-1.FC5)
    
pertusus AT free.fr:
    libsx
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.05-10.fc5 < 0:2.05-9.fc6)
    
petersen AT redhat.com:
    m17n-db
      FE3 < FC5 (0:1.3.3-1.fc3 < 0:1.3.3-1)
      FE4 < FC5 (0:1.3.3-1.fc4 < 0:1.3.3-1)
    
qspencer AT ieee.org:
    octave-forge
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2006.07.09-5.fc5 < 0:2006.07.09-4.fc6)
    
ryo-dairiki AT users.sourceforge.net:
    scim-tomoe
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.2.0-6.fc5.1 < 0:0.2.0-4.fc6)
    
splinux AT fedoraproject.org:
    pessulus
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.16.0-3.fc5 < 0:2.16.0-1.fc6)
    
tcallawa AT redhat.com:
    alsamixergui
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.9.0-0.3.rc1.fc4 < 0:0.9.0-0.2.rc1.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.9.0-0.3.rc1.fc5 < 0:0.9.0-0.2.rc1.fc5)
    
    blacs
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.1-23.fc4 < 0:1.1-22.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.1-24.fc5 < 0:1.1-22.fc6)
    
    compat-wxGTK
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.4.2-21.fc4 < 0:2.4.2-20.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.4.2-21.fc5 < 0:2.4.2-20.fc6)
    
    compat-wxPythonGTK2
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.4.2.4-12.fc4 < 0:2.4.2.4-11.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.4.2.4-12.fc5 < 0:2.4.2.4-11.fc6)
    
    gambas
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.0.17-3.fc4 < 0:1.0.14-2.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.0.17-3.fc5 < 0:1.0.14-2.fc5)
    
    gxemul
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.4.2-1.fc4 < 0:0.4.0.1-3.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:0.4.0.1-3.fc6)
    
    jam
      FE4 < FE6 (0:2.5-4.fc4 < 0:2.5-3.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.5-4.fc5 < 0:2.5-3.fc5)
    
    librx
      FE4 < FE6 (0:1.5-8.fc4 < 0:1.5-6.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:1.5-8.fc5 < 0:1.5-6.fc5)
    
    logjam
      FE4 < FE6 (1:4.5.3-5.fc4 < 1:4.5.3-4.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (1:4.5.3-5.fc5 < 1:4.5.3-4.fc6)
    
    perl-UNIVERSAL-exports
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.05-2.fc4 < 0:0.05-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.05-2.fc5 < 0:0.05-1.fc6)
    
    perl-UNIVERSAL-moniker
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.08-4.fc4 < 0:0.08-3.fc5)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.08-4.fc5 < 0:0.08-3.fc5)
    
    perl-UNIVERSAL-require
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.10-2.fc4 < 0:0.10-1.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.10-2.fc5 < 0:0.10-1.fc6)
    
    wlassistant
      FE4 < FE6 (0:0.5.5-4.fc4 < 0:0.5.5-3.fc6)
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.5.5-4.fc5 < 0:0.5.5-3.fc6)
    
    xbase
      FE5 < FE6 (0:2.0.0-6.fc5 < 0:2.0.0-5.fc6)
    
    xbsql
      FE5 < FE6 (0:0.11-8.fc5 < 0:0.11-6.fc6)
    
----------------------------------------------------------------------

abcMIDI: gemi AT bluewin.ch
  FE4 < FE6 (0:20060910-1.fc4 < 0:20060829-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060910-1.fc5 < 0:20060829-1.fc6)

alsamixergui: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.9.0-0.3.rc1.fc4 < 0:0.9.0-0.2.rc1.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.9.0-0.3.rc1.fc5 < 0:0.9.0-0.2.rc1.fc5)

amarok: gauret AT free.fr
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:1.4.1-3.fc6)

blacs: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.1-23.fc4 < 0:1.1-22.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.1-24.fc5 < 0:1.1-22.fc6)

camstream: nomis80 AT nomis80.org
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.26.3-10.fc5 < 0:0.26.3-9.fc5)

compat-wxGTK: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.4.2-21.fc4 < 0:2.4.2-20.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.4.2-21.fc5 < 0:2.4.2-20.fc6)

compat-wxPythonGTK2: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.4.2.4-12.fc4 < 0:2.4.2.4-11.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.4.2.4-12.fc5 < 0:2.4.2.4-11.fc6)

db4: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC5-updates < FC6 (0:4.3.29-8.fc5 < 0:4.3.29-7.fc6)

device-mapper: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC4-updates < FC5 (0:1.02.07-2.0 < 0:1.02.02-3.2)
  FC4-updates < FC6 (0:1.02.07-2.0 < 0:1.02.07-1.1)

dillo: andreas.bierfert AT lowlatency.de
  FE3 < FE5 (0:0.8.6-2.fc3 < 0:0.8.6-1.fc5)
  FE4 < FE5 (0:0.8.6-2.fc4 < 0:0.8.6-1.fc5)

firestarter: mpeters AT mac.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.0.3-11.fc5 < 0:1.0.3-10.fc6)

fortune-firefly: meme AT daughtersoftiresias.org
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.1.1-2.fc5 < 0:2.1.1-1.fc6)

frysk: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC5-updates < FC6 (0:0.0.1.2006.09.08.rh1-2.fc5 < 0:0.0.1.2006.08.30.rh1-1.fc6)

ftp: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC5-updates < FC6 (0:0.17-33.fc5 < 0:0.17-32.1.2.4)

fuse-sshfs: lemenkov AT gmail.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.7-1.fc4 < 0:1.6-2.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.7-1.fc5 < 0:1.6-2.fc6)

gambas: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.0.17-3.fc4 < 0:1.0.14-2.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.0.17-3.fc5 < 0:1.0.14-2.fc5)

gcin: candyz0416 AT gmail.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.2.5-2.fc5 < 0:1.2.5-1.fc6)

geda-docs: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)

geda-examples: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-4.fc6)

geda-gattrib: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)

geda-gnetlist: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)

geda-gschem: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)

geda-gsymcheck: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)

geda-symbols: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)

geda-utils: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-2.fc6)

git: chrisw AT redhat.com
  FE3 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc3 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc4 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:1.4.1-1.fc6)

grace: jamatos AT fc.up.pt
  FE5 < FE6 (0:5.1.20-2.fc5 < 0:5.1.20-1.fc6)

gxemul: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.4.2-1.fc4 < 0:0.4.0.1-3.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.4.2-1.fc5 < 0:0.4.0.1-3.fc6)

jam: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.5-4.fc4 < 0:2.5-3.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.5-4.fc5 < 0:2.5-3.fc5)

libgeda: cgoorah AT yahoo.com.au
  FE5 < FE6 (0:20060906-1.fc5 < 0:20060824-1.fc6)

libpqxx: andreas.bierfert AT lowlatency.de
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.6.7-1.fc4 < 0:2.6.6-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.6.7-1.fc5 < 0:2.6.6-1.fc6)

librx: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.5-8.fc4 < 0:1.5-6.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.5-8.fc5 < 0:1.5-6.fc5)

libsx: pertusus AT free.fr
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.05-10.fc5 < 0:2.05-9.fc6)

logjam: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (1:4.5.3-5.fc4 < 1:4.5.3-4.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (1:4.5.3-5.fc5 < 1:4.5.3-4.fc6)

lvm2: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC4-updates < FC5 (0:2.02.06-1.0.fc4 < 0:2.02.01-1.2.1)

m17n-db: petersen AT redhat.com
  FE3 < FC5 (0:1.3.3-1.fc3 < 0:1.3.3-1)
  FE4 < FC5 (0:1.3.3-1.fc4 < 0:1.3.3-1)

monodoc: paul AT all-the-johnsons.co.uk
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.1.17-5.fc5 < 0:1.1.17-4.fc6)

mozilla: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FL3-updates < FC4-updates (37:1.7.13-1.3.1.legacy < 37:1.7.13-1.1.fc4)
  FL3-updates < FC5-updates (37:1.7.13-1.3.1.legacy < 37:1.7.13-1.1.fc5)

octave-forge: qspencer AT ieee.org
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2006.07.09-5.fc5 < 0:2006.07.09-4.fc6)

opencv: nomis80 AT nomis80.org
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.9.7-16.fc5 < 0:0.9.7-15.fc5)

perl-POE-Component-IRC: cweyl AT alumni.drew.edu
  FE5 < FE6 (0:5.02-1.fc5 < 0:5.00-1.fc6)

perl-String-CRC32: paul AT city-fan.org
  FE3 < FC5-updates (0:1.4-1.fc3 < 0:1.4-1.FC5)
  FE4 < FC5-updates (0:1.4-1.fc4 < 0:1.4-1.FC5)

perl-UNIVERSAL-exports: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.05-2.fc4 < 0:0.05-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.05-2.fc5 < 0:0.05-1.fc6)

perl-UNIVERSAL-moniker: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.08-4.fc4 < 0:0.08-3.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.08-4.fc5 < 0:0.08-3.fc5)

perl-UNIVERSAL-require: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.10-2.fc4 < 0:0.10-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.10-2.fc5 < 0:0.10-1.fc6)

perl-WWW-Myspace: cweyl AT alumni.drew.edu
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.56-1.fc5 < 0:0.54-1.fc6)

pessulus: splinux AT fedoraproject.org
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.16.0-3.fc5 < 0:2.16.0-1.fc6)

pyparsing: jamatos AT fc.up.pt
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.4.3-1.fc4 < 0:1.3-1.fc5)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.4.3-1.fc5 < 0:1.3-1.fc5)

pypoker-eval: chris.stone AT gmail.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:132.0-3.fc5 < 0:132.0-2.fc6)

qgit: dan AT danny.cz
  FE4 < FE6 (0:1.5.1-1.fc4 < 0:1.5-1.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:1.5.1-1.fc5 < 0:1.5-1.fc6)

quagga: UNKNOWN OWNER (possibly Core package)
  FC4-updates < FC5-updates (0:0.98.6-1.fc4 < 0:0.98.6-1.FC5)

scim-tomoe: ryo-dairiki AT users.sourceforge.net
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.2.0-6.fc5.1 < 0:0.2.0-4.fc6)

serpentine: foolish AT guezz.net
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.7-4.fc5 < 0:0.7-3.fc6)

sqlite2: imlinux AT gmail.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.8.17-1.fc5 < 0:2.8.16-3.fc5)

stratagus: lemenkov AT gmail.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.1-6.fc4 < 0:2.1-5.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.1-6.fc5 < 0:2.1-5.fc6)

tinyerp: dan AT danny.cz
  FE5 < FE6 (0:3.3.0-3.fc5 < 0:3.3.0-2.fc6)

vorbisgain: noa AT resare.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.34-2.fc5 < 0:0.34-1.fc6)

wlassistant: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE4 < FE6 (0:0.5.5-4.fc4 < 0:0.5.5-3.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.5.5-4.fc5 < 0:0.5.5-3.fc6)

xbase: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.0.0-6.fc5 < 0:2.0.0-5.fc6)

xbsql: tcallawa AT redhat.com
  FE5 < FE6 (0:0.11-8.fc5 < 0:0.11-6.fc6)

zile: jeff AT ultimateevil.org
  FE3 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc3 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)
  FE4 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc4 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)
  FE5 < FE6 (0:2.2.19-1.fc5 < 0:2.2.13-2.fc6)


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