Announcing Embedded SIG

Trond Danielsen trond.danielsen at gmail.com
Wed Mar 14 12:07:52 UTC 2007


2007/3/14, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl>:
> Trond Danielsen wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I just created a new SIG: Fedora Embedded systems special interest group.
> >
> > I have been a Fedora user for several years, and the one thing that I
> > have been missing the most is tools for embedded software development.
> > Many popular microcontrollers and DPS's such as Atmel AVR and AVR32,
> > PIC, 8051 and Analog Devices Blackfin are supported by open source
> > tools, but these have until now been missing from the Fedora
> > repositories.
> >
> > What I want is to see as many of these tools availble in Fedora. Some
> > packages have already been included, and other have been submitted for
> > review. A list of submitted packages is available here:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TrondDanielsen.
> >
> > Support for embedded systems development depend on the guidelines for
> > cross-compilers, and a preliminary for these guidelines is availbe
> > from this page:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/CrossCompiling
> >
>
> I must say I'm a bit disappointed to not see my (well received) proposal for
> cross-gcc guidelines on this page, but instead a link to an old, stale
> incomplete, never publicly discussed guideline attempt under the Packaging
> hierarchy, to me sig specific guidelines belong under the SIG hierarchy where
> they can be freely edited and not under the closeddown Packaging hierachy,
> worse in this case the guideline proposal pointed to has not seen any attention
> for over a year and was never publicly discussed.

I am sorry for not having updated the guidelines yet. I have been busy
lately, but it's getting closer to the top of my TODO list. Due to
this feedback I will push it further up, and have it ready by tonight.

The finished guidelines should indeed be under the corresponding SIG,
but I was (mistakenly) under the impression that since they were not
completed yet, the correct location was in the Draft section. Please
correct me if I am wrong; remember I am a n00b when it comes to how
many of these things are organized.

> > If you think this sounds interesting, and want to help out, check out
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Embedded
> >
>
> This sounds like something which can better be done under the Cross sig, when
> you have cross tools you naturally want support for programmers, remote
> debuggers simulators etc.

Ok, I agree, there is no need to separate these two. However, I think
Embedded System Development is a more describing name that Cross
Compiling. As you said, you usually want programmers, debuggers etc.,
but Cross Compiling does not explicitly indicate that. Before this
turn into a marketing/branding/flamewar, I'll just say that as long as
the support for such tools improve, I am happy, whatever the umbrella
is :).

-- 
Trond Danielsen




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