[Fedora-i18n-list] Re: Japanese input _almost_ working in English FC2 (KDE)

[morpheus]

Daniel,
Sorry I can't answer your questions on the Chinese side since I don't
use the Chinese input, only 日本語.
But I have had similar problems to you with the mode toggling off.  What
happens to me is usually if I go back and highlight existing text
intending to type/replace it, when I press space for the conversion it
only gives me romaji (roman character) options, instead of kana and
kanji options.  If I save, close the application and reload, it works
fine.
Has anyone else experienced this?
-jr

On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 03:41, Daniel S.K. Yek 叶盛刚 wrote:
> >   # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
> 
> I'm glad to know the above command and the debug switch. Thanks.
> 
> James, I apologize to intercept the thread on Japanese input. Below is
> Chinese input, but the problem is not a lot different - I think. 
> 
> I have IIIMF and the GNOME desktop; I enjoy the ability to read
> Chinese characters in my emails and see them in many applications.
> That is good...Super.
> 
> However, I am not thrilled with IIIMF yet, because I cannot use it
> effectively. With the debug message, I can identify several occasions
> where the conversion mode is toggled off: 
>         Toggle client conversion mode to false.
> 
> When using gedit, every time I type a space character, the conversion
> mode turns off by itself. CTRL-Space also turned off the conversion
> mode. There might be more situation where the conversion mode is
> turned off.
> 
> Once the conversion mode is turned off, it cannot be turned on
> conveniently - CTRL-Space definitely doesn't work. Gimlet is as buggy
> as it can be at this point. When the space character turned conversion
> mode off, it reduced to a small button without a label on it. Clicking
> on it, I found that "English" is checked. 
> 
> The only way I can turn the conversion mode on is by clicking on
> Gimlet and choose "Simplified Chinese". Right-click in gedit and from
> the context menu choose Input Methods/Internet-Intranet Input Method
> doesn't turn the conversion mode on - Gimlet displays a empty label. 
> 
> Switching between application windows, Gimlet may sometimes display
> 英文, that is "English" in Chinese characters. Clicking on Gimlet shows
> that Simplified Chinese in checked, not "English" as displayed. The
> conversion mode was not turned on - there is no way to turn it on
> until you go through the clicking process to check Simplified Chinese
> again. 
> 
> Too often conversion mode is turned off unintentionally and one needs
> to start all over again to turn it on. That discounted my experience
> with IIIMF a lot. 
> 
> There are several other problems: 
> I couldn't switch between Simplified Chinese input method anymore. I
> did it once or twice with CTRL-ALT-4 awkwardly, when FC2 was first
> released, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
> I gave up adding Traditional Chinese to the list - Gimlet crashed and
> randomly changed its menu one or two times too often. I added
> Traditional Chinese, a crash (I forgot if I killed it because it
> simply wasn't behaving) will take it out.
> I have no idea what ASCII mode is. Why it just suddenly appeared in
> the menu and I think I lost "English", for a while. It didn't work to
> input ASCII too.
> 
> 
> Although, I provided a list of problems, I can see that a lot of the
> mechanism are already there. A few polishing in UI components might
> solve most of the problems I am experiencing. 
> 
> Thank you all for advancing the International support on Linux!
> 
> Pls.: Is there a guide on this version of Chinese input methods? I'm
> not very good at any Chinese input method, but I learned a little of
> two input methods before. I just need to learn it/them more
> comprehensively. Even a database of what keystrokes yield what
> character(s) will be a good reference for me. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 19:01, Akira TAGOH wrote: 
> > >>>>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:38:39 +0000,
> > >>>>> "morpheus" == morpheus <morpheus at post.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > morpheus> Yeah, I've tried just about all the key combinations I can think of,
> > morpheus> including CTRL-space, SHIFT-space, ALT-space, etc. etc...
> > 
> > BTW I couldn't find which version are you using from your
> > mails (but you said the latest packages)
> > Pleas make sure anyway:
> > - you have installed the latest updated im-sdk packages. the
> >   latest version is 11.4-46.svn1587. if you have installed
> >   it correctly, try rpm -qa | grep iiimf, and you will see:
> >   iiimf-client-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >   iiimf-client-lib-devel--11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >   iiimf-csconv-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >   iiimf-docs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >   iiimf-emacs-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >   iiimf-gtk-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for gtk2 apps)
> >   iiimf-le-canna-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Japanese)
> >   iiimf-le-hangul-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Korean)
> >   iiimf-le-newpy-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for Simplified Chinese, but iiimf-le-inpinyin is recommended)
> >   iiimf-le-unit-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for others)
> >   iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >   iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-46.svn1587 (optional)
> >   iiimf-server-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires)
> >   iiimf-x-11.4-46.svn1587 (requires for X apps)
> > - sorry for the reminder, but run your terminal and check
> >   the environment variable again. if you configure it
> >   correctly, you can find out the below as the result of
> >   printenv command:
> >   XMODIFIERS=@im=htt
> >   GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
> > - as you indicated, the processes is running looks
> >   good. however please stop the processes (I meant htt,
> >   htt_server, httx and htt_xbe. please keep running
> >   cannaserver) first to track this issue down. and run it
> >   manually on the terminal instead of. like this:
> >   # service IIim stop
> >   # killall httx
> >   # ps -efw | grep htt | grep -v grep
> >   (you won't see any output here)
> >   # /usr/sbin/htt_server -d
> > 
> >   and on the another terminal:
> >   # /usr/bin/httx
> >   and then, run the KDE applications from the another
> >   terminal and press ctrl+space.
> > 
> > what do you see on each terminals?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Akira TAGOH
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