[Fedora-i18n-list] utf-8 national character input in Linux Konsole/KDE/X?

Leon Ho llch at redhat.com
Thu Jan 19 05:09:43 UTC 2006


Hi Mikko,

How does this compare to gnome-terminal?

And have you tried to change the Settings -> Encodings to 'UTF-8' in konsole 
and see if it works?

Is your KDE rpms grabbed somewhere else?
[llch at dhcp-109 ~]$ konsole -v
Qt: 3.3.4
KDE: 3.4.2-0.fc4.1 Red Hat
Konsole: 1.5.2

Cheers,
Leon

On Tuesday 10 January 2006 16:12, Mikko Harjula wrote:
> I'm running KDE on Fedora Core 4, kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma
> (i.e. Planet CCRMA patched FC4 kernel, but the same problem occurs
> with the FC4 kernel too):
>
> $ konsole -v
> Qt: 3.3.4
> KDE: 3.4.2 Level "b"
> Konsole: 1.5.2
>
> My problem is that I cannot input national characters from keyboard in KDE
> Konsole.  This used to work fine with my old RedHat 9 using iso-8859-1.  I
> have the adiaeresis etc. keys on my keyboard.  I have googled around and
> others having problems like this are trying to type chinese or other much
> more complicated, so this must be something that should work right out of
> the box!
>
> In virtual console (text mode you get with alt-FN, N=1-6 outside ox X) I
> can type and see utf-8 characters.  If XXX is a string with national
> characters I can say:
>
> $ cat >XXX
> XXX
> ^D
> $ cat XXX
> XXX
> $
>
> Also less works if I set LESSCHARSET to utf-8.  However even in
> virtual console 'ls' shows utf-8 national characters in filenames as
> two question marks.
>
> In X (KDE) the default xterm (konsole) is worse.  I cannot type
> national characters, not even as dead key sequences.  National
> character keys and 'dead' keys print nothing and also swallow the
> following characters.  The display shows only some small dots, smaller
> and positioned a bit lower than a period.  The ls command prints the
> "??" for each national char.  The 'cat XXX' shows the contents of the
> file OK - of course I have to use wildcards to match the filename.
> Less works too.  So it seems konsole can show utf-8 but the input
> method is wrong.
>
> In GNU Emacs 21.4.1 under X and in konsole (option -nw) entering
> national characters produces nothing, dired shows national chars in
> filenames correctly and displays file content correctly.
>
> XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) under X seems to work correctly with national
> characters, but with -nw option input does not work anymore.
>
> Xterm is a little better than Konsole because there I can type these
> letters and they show up correctly, but every time I type one letter
> the next letter is not displyed before I type something else.  And
> this behaviour sticks even through returns, so it seems to be deep
> inside some input processing as if these would be like dead keys.  By
> the way the dead-key mechanism (pressing the diaeresis followed by a
> produces adiaeresis) does not work either.
>
> Currently I have:
>
> $ env|egrep '^(LANG|LC_)'
> LC_COLLATE=posix
> LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8
>
> and locale is:
>
> $ locale
> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei
> ole LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8
> LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE=posix
> LC_MONETARY="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
>
> The message "Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole" is "no such file" in Finnish.
>
> My /etc/sysconfig/i18n contains:
>
> LANG="fi_FI.UTF-8"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
> SUPPORTED="fi_FI.UTF-8:fi_FI:fi"
>
> My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> 	Driver      "kbd"
> 	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
> 	Option	    "XkbLayout" "fi"
> EndSection
>
> I don't have ~/.i18n or ~/.Xmodmap and I don't know if I should have one.
>
> When I start xev and press and releas 'ä' I get:
>
> KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001,
>     root 0x5f, subw 0x0, time 36690043, (434,546), root:(438,567),
>     state 0x10, keycode 48 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "�
>     XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "�
>     XFilterEvent returns: False
>
> KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001,
>     root 0x5f, subw 0x0, time 36690142, (434,546), root:(438,567),
>     state 0x10, keycode 48 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "�
>
> The adiaeresis seems to be correct but XLookupString gives something funny.
>
> I have spent several days on this without any luck (including several
> reinstalls) and would appreciate any help.  Also leads to in-depth
> documentation thoroughly explaining the mechanisms involved when keycodes
> go through kernel, X, KDE, konsole, bash and whatever would be mostly
> welcome.




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