15:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's Here? 15:01 < mmcgrath> So... who's here? 15:01 < ivazquez> Pong. 15:01 < gkrpan> Greg Krpan here 15:01 * f13 15:01 < f13> although going to get a snack 15:01 * jeremy waves 15:01 < mmcgrath> gkrpan: hello Greg 15:02 < gkrpan> hi Mike 15:02 * Wakko666 watches from the cheap seats. 15:02 * skvidal is here 15:03 < mmcgrath> alllrighty then, lets get started 15:03 < mmcgrath> First the tickets 15:03 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 15:03 * nirik is also in the spectator seats. 15:03 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority 15:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6 15:03 < mmcgrath> first ticket 15:03 < mmcgrath> .421 15:03 < mmcgrath> err 15:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 421 15:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #421 (Fedora Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/421 15:04 < mmcgrath> So the board has decided that secondary arch's are worth of official fedora mirror space. I agree. 15:04 < mmcgrath> So now we've got to find mirror space. 15:04 < mmcgrath> Some of you may have seen my call yesterday (http://mmcgrath.net/) for space. 15:05 < mmcgrath> there are a couple of wheels in motion right now but exactly what solution we're going to do is unclear. 15:05 < f13> mmcgrath: hrm, you know, all we have to do for the stuff that's not older than 3 years old is keep the old url functional, the one we did our export file on. 15:05 -!- jmbuser [n=jmbuser 195 229 24 83] has left #fedora-meeting ["Time to go"] 15:05 < f13> mmcgrath: we could move that content to another host and setup a redirect, and keep it off the master netapp 15:05 < mmcgrath> f13: yeah, we still have to host it somewhere though, and we don't have that much space available right this second. 15:05 < f13> mmcgrath: that could let us archive 4,5,and 6 15:05 < f13> mmcgrath: sure. 15:05 < mmcgrath> <nod> 15:05 < mmcgrath> lots of options. 15:06 < mmcgrath> I really don't think we'll get stuck not being able to put the bits up there, just a matter of finding out where the bits go :) 15:06 < f13> yeah 15:06 < mmcgrath> f13: did you happen to talk to legal about the test releases and our obligations? 15:06 < mmcgrath> I'm not really sure who's charge that is. Maybe spot? 15:06 < f13> mmcgrath: we haven't talked yet 15:06 < f13> I was going to do that today, utnil I was surpised with the need to work from home 15:06 < f13> maybe spot and I can do that tomorrow 15:07 * spot nods 15:07 -!- cebbert_ [n=cebbert nat/redhat/x-222f1705c2f83827] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:07 < mmcgrath> cool, not a huge rush or anything. but it'd be nice to know. 15:07 < f13> yeah, it's chewing on my mind 15:08 < mmcgrath> alrighty, anyone have any questions about 421? If not we'll move on. 15:08 * glezos is here in case he's needed 15:08 < mmcgrath> .ticket 347 15:08 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #347 (Set localtime on all our servers to UTC) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/347 15:08 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: we still all set for tonight? 15:09 * mmcgrath thinks it was tonight. 15:09 < mmcgrath> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-February/msg00013.html 15:09 * mmcgrath thinks dgilmore might be in a meeting. We can get back to that. 15:10 < mmcgrath> .ticket 365 15:10 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #365 (mailman setup (project/hosted)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/365 15:10 < mmcgrath> jcollie has a $dayjob meeting but this bit is basically up and ready. It really just needs a couple of people to make a test list, make sure we like it all. 15:10 < mmcgrath> then add it to the faq on how to request mailing lists 15:11 < mmcgrath> anyone have any questions / comments on that? 15:12 < ivazquez> Have we finalized on -list@ or @list.? 15:12 < mmcgrath> allrighty 15:12 < mmcgrath> going to be a short meeting I suspect. 15:12 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: afaik, no. 15:12 < ivazquez> Alright. 15:12 -!- jcollie_ [n=jcollie 161 210 6 122] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 15:13 < mmcgrath> we'll need to do that though, ivazquez mind bringing it back up on the list? 15:13 < ivazquez> Sure thing. 15:13 < mmcgrath> thanks 15:13 < mmcgrath> next ticket: 15:13 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395 15:13 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 15:13 < mmcgrath> jcollie's also been working on this so we can move it to next week. 15:14 < mmcgrath> next 15:14 < mmcgrath> .ticket 398 15:14 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #398 (elfutils `monotone' (mtn) error) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/398 15:14 * mmcgrath reads up on ticket. 15:15 < ivazquez> Have we talked to the mtn devs about this? 15:15 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: seems likely that we haven't 15:15 < mmcgrath> fun #monotone is #unavailable 15:15 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: I'll make a note in the ticket about that. we can move it to next week for now and see what jcollie says. 15:16 < ivazquez> It's on oftc I think. 15:16 < mmcgrath> <nod> 15:16 < mmcgrath> alrighty, I've also had a request to bring up 15:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 399 15:16 < ivazquez> Yup, oftc. 15:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #399 (Damned Lies setup change: Move cronned update-stats to a separate app server) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/399 15:16 < mmcgrath> glezos: whats up with that? 15:17 < glezos> Basically it's a task to reduce the load on our web servers, and to move to mysql 15:17 < mmcgrath> sounds like a win win win to me. 15:17 < glezos> move the stats update script to a different server 15:17 < glezos> The (3rd) server running the cronned script producing the stats will need to output some files in a place the web servers could access.. Not sure how to setup that, I'll need someone to help me out drive this 15:18 < mmcgrath> glezos: have you tried to convert the sqlite db's to mysql? Or would we just start with a blank mysql and re-run the stats script? 15:18 -!- jsmith-away is now known as jsmith 15:18 -!- jsmith [n=jsmith 72 21 36 138] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 15:18 < glezos> mmcgrath: yeah, we can do that too in a clean environment, like described on comment #1. 15:19 < glezos> mmcgrath: I'll need a third app server with an NFS the other ones can readonly from. 15:19 < glezos> or something like that 15:19 < mmcgrath> we'll likely just run that on one of the servers that already has the environment on it. 15:19 < mmcgrath> similar to what we do for mirrormanager. 15:20 < glezos> ok 15:20 < gkrpan> what about an scp push to the remaining servers? 15:20 < mmcgrath> how much information / storage are we talking about pushing around? 15:20 < mmcgrath> both right now and this time next year? 15:20 < glezos> 3GB 15:20 < glezos> oops, wrong 15:20 < glezos> much less, sorry 15:20 < mmcgrath> 3GB, is that for dl or transifex? 15:21 < glezos> mmcgrath: we need the update script to produce the contents of http:.../POT/ 15:21 < mmcgrath> how much space is that? 15:21 * glezos checking 15:21 -!- bpepple|lt [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:21 < glezos> 600M 15:21 < mmcgrath> by tying ourselves to nfs we're pretty much committing to only hosting this information in PHX. 15:22 < mmcgrath> which is doable, but not desirable. 15:22 < mmcgrath> how often would this cron job run? 15:22 < glezos> mmcgrath: every 6-8 hours, however these files don't change often, so rsync will be fast. 15:23 < mmcgrath> k, its possible to do it with the rsync or nfs. its 600M now, ohw much will it be next year at our current growth rate? 15:23 < glezos> mmcgrath: could become up to 3 times in the next year. 15:24 -!- rsc [n=robert fedora/rsc] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 15:24 < mmcgrath> k, then we probably will just want to use an nfs store. 15:24 < mmcgrath> What time frame did you have in mind for these changes? 15:25 < glezos> mmcgrath: things work now, so I'm not in a hurry. But it will reduce the load on app1,2 a lot for ~1.5-2 hours each day 15:25 < mmcgrath> <nod> 15:25 < glezos> (or just one of them) 15:25 < mmcgrath> We can probably do that in the next month or so without issue. I'd say try to get ahold of paulobanon or yingbull for some help. 15:25 < mmcgrath> anything else on that? 15:26 < glezos> thanks (eof) 15:26 < mmcgrath> solid 15:26 < mmcgrath> Alrighty, thats all the tickets we have 15:26 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Xen2 instabilities 15:26 < mmcgrath> So I still haven't heard back from anyone on whats going on with this, I finally got an oops capture though 15:27 < mmcgrath> skvidal has been kind enough to be on call the last couple of nights so I could sleep. But it didn't crash so thats good. 15:27 < mmcgrath> we're keeping an eye on it though. 15:27 * skvidal thinks it did not crash B/C he was on call 15:27 < mmcgrath> that could very well be. 15:27 * skvidal is clearly a good luck charm 15:27 < skvidal> oh god 15:27 < mmcgrath> good luck :) 15:27 < mmcgrath> heh 15:27 < skvidal> this means I have to be on call forever 15:28 < mmcgrath> alrighty moving on.... 15:28 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- FAS2 15:28 < mmcgrath> So toshio, ricky and I have been hitting FAS2 pretty hard core to strip ldap out and get it ready for a pre-beta release. 15:28 < mmcgrath> 1) we're basically back to the functionality of where we were with LDAP now. 15:28 < mmcgrath> 2) It will allow us to do a ton 15:28 < mmcgrath> and 3) its almost ready. 15:29 < mmcgrath> Expect an email over the next week to help us test. 15:29 -!- rsc [n=robert fedora/rsc] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:29 < mmcgrath> I'm hoping to package this as well, the installation process is quite simple, even getting shell account integration. 15:29 < mmcgrath> This will be of use to more people then just Fedora. 15:29 -!- wolfy [n=lonewolf fedora/wolfy] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:29 < mmcgrath> and thats really all I had for this week 15:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 15:30 < abadger1999> 4) it's based on TG-188.8.131.52 and SA-0.4 so people need to test their apps on publictest10 so we can roll this all out concurrently :-) 15:30 < mmcgrath> what toshio said :) 15:30 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about this meeting? 15:30 < mmcgrath> if not we'll close the meeting in 30 15:31 < mmcgrath> 10 15:31 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Closed 15:31 < mmcgrath> thanks for coming everyone!
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